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Old 07-10-2013, 02:00 PM
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im sickened by the armchair jury & online drumhead trial that Zimmerman is being subjected to hear.

erin & I live in the inner city and we see criminals everyday here. they are not always commiting a crime but you can bet they aint hanging out in the alley or under the "L" overpasses to hand out bible's.

the streets in this city are full of drunks & drug addicts & even though the police try their best they cant be everywhere.

this year "2013" there have been at least 2 rapes within walking distance of our home. both were at locations that erin &i frequent. Since this i now even more than before watch everyone thats "just hangiong out".

trevon martin was not walking on the sidewalk or the curb he was tresspassing where he should not be & that opened up the possibility that he was caseing houses. i see this shit everyday.

trevon martin did not tell mr. zimmerman he lived there and was on his way home to his fathers house. he did not call 911 to report he was being "stalked" he deliberatly avoided mr zimmerman. when zimmerman confronted him trevon martin attacked him.

neither one of them acted with any responsibilty or reason.

the only fact that makes any difference is that trevon martin attacked mr zimmerman. then mr zimmerman defended himself.

this should never have gone to court and if not for the tired old race card it would not have.

its a political prosecution plain and simple.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:15 PM
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im sickened by the armchair jury & online drumhead trial that Zimmerman is being subjected to hear.

erin & I live in the inner city and we see criminals everyday here. they are not always commiting a crime but you can bet they aint hanging out in the alley or under the "L" overpasses to hand out bible's.

the streets in this city are full of drunks & drug addicts & even though the police try their best they cant be everywhere.

this year "2013" there have been at least 2 rapes within walking distance of our home. both were at locations that erin &i frequent. Since this i now even more than before watch everyone thats "just hangiong out".

trevon martin was not walking on the sidewalk or the curb he was tresspassing where he should not be & that opened up the possibility that he was caseing houses. i see this shit everyday.

trevon martin did not tell mr. zimmerman he lived there and was on his way home to his fathers house. he did not call 911 to report he was being "stalked" he deliberatly avoided mr zimmerman. when zimmerman confronted him trevon martin attacked him.

neither one of them acted with any responsibilty or reason.

the only fact that makes any difference is that trevon martin attacked mr zimmerman. then mr zimmerman defended himself.

this should never have gone to court and if not for the tired old race card it would not have.

its a political prosecution plain and simple.
I am glad to see you say that Zim did not act with any responsibility or reason. I agree. Since this is the case. And for the sake of conversation we can say (as you did) that both acted without responsibility or reason and one is dead, what should we do with the other?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:21 PM
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To my mind, any adult has an obligation to look after and take of any child in our society when they are alone.

Zim did the exact opposite. He made this kid fearful then slaughtered him.

These are the fact.

I get it that at some point Zim became "fearful," heck no one wants a black eye but given his actions that night what would you do with him if you were KIng?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:24 PM
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I am glad to see you say that Zim did not act with any responsibility or reason. I agree. Since this is the case. And for the sake of conversation we can say (as you did) that both acted without responsibility or reason and one is dead, what should we do with the other?
the answer is simple. Nothing.

Mr Zimmerman should have made available to him the same resources and treatment that any law enforcement officer gets after being involved in a shooting. after that has taken place a report would be made to the police and if found emotionally competent his firearm should be returned.
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:28 PM
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the answer is simple. Nothing.

Mr Zimmerman should have made available to him the same resources and treatment that any law enforcement officer gets after being involved in a shooting. after that has taken place a report would be made to the police and if found emotionally competent his firearm should be returned.
Wow

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Old 07-10-2013, 04:30 PM
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Wow

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Double wow. I dont think he's been following the trial at all.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:23 PM
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Double wow. I dont think he's been following the trial at all.
this just shows how foolish you all are.

not only have i watched the entire proceedings held i the presence of the jury. i also have listened to the sidebar's & case law arguments

i have a very strong background in criminal law. logic not some sense of giult over the plight of blacks guides my opinion in this matter. i have not taken as much time as i should to study Florida statute and remedies but i aint getting paid either

had martin not attacked Mr. Zimmerman and George had still shot him. i would based on his actions. filed charges of 1st deg. murder with depraved indifference & possibly added the federal hate crimes clause.

2nd murder & man 1 & 2 would also have been no brainers.

so while you sit and snivel in your self righteous ivory towers of political correctness. assured in the mindset your better than than other because your gonna stop the white devils from stepping the poor black mans throat.

im running entirely on the facts.

FACT.

Trevon Martin attacked George Zimmerman.

even the state admitted that today when their case up & blew away like a fart in the wind.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:52 PM
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this just shows how foolish you all are.

not only have i watched the entire proceedings held i the presence of the jury. i also have listened to the sidebar's & case law arguments

i have a very strong background in criminal law. logic not some sense of giult over the plight of blacks guides my opinion in this matter. i have not taken as much time as i should to study Florida statute and remedies but i aint getting paid either

had martin not attacked Mr. Zimmerman and George had still shot him. i would based on his actions. filed charges of 1st deg. murder with depraved indifference & possibly added the federal hate crimes clause.

2nd murder & man 1 & 2 would also have been no brainers.

so while you sit and snivel in your self righteous ivory towers of political correctness. assured in the mindset your better than than other because your gonna stop the white devils from stepping the poor black mans throat.

im running entirely on the facts.

FACT.

Trevon Martin attacked George Zimmerman.

even the state admitted that today when their case up & blew away like a fart in the wind.
I have watched this trial also and it has not been established that Zim was attacked. How can your opinion be meaningful no matter how much you watched and studied if you hear/believe what suits you?

How can you say fact when this has not been nor could be established?

I am gonna say this straight up. Not to upset you but because it is FACT. Had Trayvon been a white kid without a hoodie and Zim a black man with a hoodie you would be all for frying Zim.

Why? not because you are a bad guy nor an overt racist. Rather because your stereotyping is too strong to be objective.

This is my honest opinion.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:27 PM
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i have a very strong background in criminal law.
For the record, here is the troglodytic assertion to knowledge of "law" of which I was previously referring.

I am, generally, in alignment with everything postulated by Charles's eloquent post.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:32 PM
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the answer is simple. Nothing.

Mr Zimmerman should have made available to him the same resources and treatment that any law enforcement officer gets after being involved in a shooting. after that has taken place a report would be made to the police and if found emotionally competent his firearm should be returned.
Mr Zippy was not a trained law enforcement officer last I checked. Just a scared vigilante who bit off more then he could chew. Then used his gun as a final act of cowardliness to kill another. Now has mouth pieces and hired guns to confuses the issues.


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