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The new President will not remain member of the Muslim Brotherhood. he announced. He is wise to understand that once elected he represents all the people.

I'd like to see our Presidents adopt the same philosophy.

Actually put the country first.
Actually, he'll only have as much power as he can wrangle/negotiate away from the military, though that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:27 PM
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Actually, he'll only have as much power as he can wrangle/negotiate away from the military, though that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Would it be your opinion that potentially the middle east is less stable after the Arab Spring than before?
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:30 PM
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Actually, he'll only have as much power as he can wrangle/negotiate away from the military, though that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Good read. I hope it works as well.
Even Turkey has moved toward fundamentalism the last decade.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:29 PM
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The new President will not remain member of the Muslim Brotherhood. he announced. He is wise to understand that once elected he represents all the people.


I'd like to see our Presidents adopt the same philosophy.

Actually put the country first.
We'll see. He ran very much as an Islamic fundamentalist early in his campaign. He switched gears late in his campaign to a more "inclusive message" when it appeared he was failing to attract sufficient support. His word and actions smack more of political opportunism than true conviction at this point. Like I said, too early to tell, but it is a situation that certainly bears continued vigilance.
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We'll see. He ran very much as an Islamic fundamentalist early in his campaign. He switched gears late in his campaign to a more "inclusive message" when it appeared he was failing to attract sufficient support. His word and actions smack more of political opportunism than true conviction at this point. Like I said, too early to tell, but it is a situation that certainly bears continued vigilance.
He was educated in the US, after all.
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Would it be your opinion that potentially the middle east is less stable after the Arab Spring than before?
Less stable. I also suspect it will shortly become even more instable. The one good thing, ironically, that Saddam Hussein did was buffer the region. I can envision multiple civil wars with foreign opportunists, likely China and Russia, lurking to gain advantage over the United States' influence, or rather, lack thereof in the region.
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We can export grain, or guns, or fighter planes, but no one can export democracy, so when is everyone going to wake up?
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:46 AM
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We can export grain, or guns, or fighter planes,
But we lead the world in the export of fuel oil.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:47 AM
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We'll see. He ran very much as an Islamic fundamentalist early in his campaign. He switched gears late in his campaign to a more "inclusive message" when it appeared he was failing to attract sufficient support. His word and actions smack more of political opportunism than true conviction at this point. Like I said, too early to tell, but it is a situation that certainly bears continued vigilance.
Good post Whell.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:52 AM
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Here's the credo of the Muslim Brotherhood:

"God is our objective; the Quran is our law, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."

Of course the Obama admin felt the need to reopen formal diplomatic relations with this group (which were earlier suspended on suspicions of involvement in terrorism) once it started becoming apparent that they were becoming a serious political player in Egypt and Obama even called to congratulate Mursi last week on his win.

The last time I checked this group has not renounced their credo and still considers jihad as their way and death for the sake of Allah to be their highest aspiration. It just a matter of weeks however before we see a picture of Obama bowing to Mohamed Mursi.
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