Getting Rid of Holder

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Yes indeedy, a very small project that didn't kill anyone.

Perhaps to show they don't, my take. They buy containers off the world weapons market.

Edit: ah, they were targeting a specific group.

Pete

Oops. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Remember?

[Oerets]

From what I saw of yesterdays hearing Darrel Issa was grandstanding and rude. Holder had to be thinking what a ignorant arrogant Ahole was sitting up there asking questions.



Barney

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by mezz

The cover-up being basically handled very clumsily and obviously through the attorney general has certainly made this worse. The degree to which they have been uncooperative serves to underscore this admins attitude towards due process and respect for their respective offices and the American public. Now they are deep into a sea of lies and the president doesn't come out looking good no matter which way this turns now. Continued stonewalling is really their only choice now, but more evidence (like the wiretaps) is going to start coming out now as people are becoming extremely fed up and this goes beyind politics. A smart and less aloof admin would have had Holder take the fall a year ago and try to get the buck to stop there in hopes that they might have been able to head off an investigation which got far beyond the AG. It would seem that they deemed containing this would be impossible as the links to the president couldn't be covered up simply by having Holder take the blame here.

Another view of it is that the GOP is just looking for something that the average simple-minded American can comprehend - the Border Agent was killed with a gun that derived from the F&F program.

It could have just as easily happened under Dubya or happened with a non-F&F firearm. I think it also has something to do with the NRA and their Congressional minions trying to focus on a case where efforts to control firearms flow backfired. They'll use this as ammunition to fight any further firearms control efforts.

You've been sucked in, Mezz.

[mezz]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I suppose you'd need to ask Dubya and his AG at the time. It started under him.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...urious-tactics

Although the comparison isn't exactly true, even if it was, it's not much of a defense... but it is of course used repeatedly by the left.

Obama: "The guy I've painted as the most lying, most evil, most incompetent president we've ever had (and who I've blamed all of my woes on thus far) did it, so it should be ok if I do it too".

Come on.

[mezz]

Originally Posted by Oerets

From what I saw of yesterdays hearing Darrel Issa was grandstanding and rude. Holder had to be thinking what a ignorant arrogant Ahole was sitting up there asking questions.

Barney

After year and a half of facing Holder's shenannigans, I don't think too many people are blaming Issa for bring a little bit pissed off.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by mezz

Who knows what they are really thinking.

Apparently, you'd like us to think you do.

John

[mezz]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Another view of it is that the GOP is just looking for something that the average simple-minded American can comprehend - the Border Agent was killed with a gun that derived from the F&F program.

It could have just as easily happened under Dubya or happened with a non-F&F firearm. I think it also has something to do with the NRA and their Congressional minions trying to focus on a case where efforts to control firearms flow backfired. They'll use this as ammunition to fight any further firearms control efforts.

You've been sucked in, Mezz.

This has teeth now. Presidents don't go down for making mistakes, they go down for lying about them.

[mezz]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I see. The evidence is because Mezz says so. We don't need any legitimate sources.

Regards,

D-Ray

This stuff is mouse clicks away. Try googling "Fast and Furious" and watch some the videos of the hearings in congress.

[bobabode]

So copy and paste the link otherwise your extremely biassed opinions are all you've got and not worthy of a bucket full of warm spit. Sorry I meant shit.

[mezz]

Originally Posted by bobabode

So copy and paste the link otherwise your extremely biassed opinions are all you've got and not worthy of a bucket full of warm spit. Sorry I meant shit.

Which particular point of evidence or Holder's bumbling would you like to see? I can't believe you guys need such handholding to do an interent video search... just get your secretaries to do it like everyone else does... (or is this, as I suspect, just part of the normal liberal song and dance to build a case for denial).