Actual Armed Citizens

[flacaltenn]

Dave:

Because of the relative success of the states in passing CCW laws, and the constant improvement in Insta-Check processing, and the attention of enforcement of mandatory sentencing for criminal firearm use, there are very few gun laws pending at the Fed level. However, there is one H.R. 45 that would essentially require registration of every gun with the Feds. THis is a red-herring that is DOA.. Guess we've won and all is well with the world. Whatcha bitchin' about?

MerryLander: I finally made it to WashPost "investigation". Don't have time to read it all now, but I will.. And YES, there is no current law that requires Federal paperwork on every gun that is "missing" from a dealer's inventory. Using a gun for parts or breaking into pieces for salvage is not a crime. Nor should it require a 4 page disclosure that is under penalty of prison time and $10,000. If you disagree --- propose the legislation.. But don't claim REPs or ole FlaCalTenn is blocking you from doing so..

Frankly, I'm tired of reading all the BS about what the wonderful founders thought and wrote as if they were themselves each gods. The most important ideal the founders built into our government and constitution was that things CHANGE and the constitution must be a living document that can also change. The 2nd amendment is an AMENDMENT. It could be repealed. It could be modified. That, IMO, is no accident. Certainly the founders couldn't imagine automatic weapons, much less Blackhawk helicopters, nerve gas, or nuclear bombs. But they DID imagine that the world would be a different place in 50, 100, 200 years and built the idea that every generation has to interpret and mold the basic principles in the constitution to fit the times. Quotes about how flintlocks and muskets fit into 18th century politics when the enemy had to get across the Atlantic ocean in square-rigged SAILBOATS are fucking meaningless in today's world. Get a grip. "Strict constructionists," and all you who quote chapter and verse about a time in which a guy with the best weapon available would be lucky to give you a flesh wound from 100 feet away should grow up and look around a little bit. Sheesh.

Whoa.. JonL.. Accusing ME of drama and embellishment? Listen, what I know is that there is a clause in the original Constitution that ENCOURAGED privateering to keep the oceans safe. Called Letters of Marque/Reprisal -- ask the Lord of the Sea to explain this. But that didn't LEGITIMIZE normal citizens into owning state of the art (1790 style) battleships with multiple cannon and assaulting features --- It REWARDED the practice!

Ok -- so today we only have Halliburton and Private Security style privateers. No battleship owning, nuclear carrying citizens with a grudge. And I've already told you -- the NRA membership doesn't want to OWN howitzers and machine guns, they just want to rent them! Except for my neighbor, a Civil War enactor that has access to multiple WORKING cannons. Are we done with the flights of fancy here? Or is it really about restricting my weapon choice to a revolver and a single-shot bolt action?

It's clear that what was TIMELESS in the founder's message, was that liberties WOULD ALWAYS be under attack and that force of arms was to be reserved as a just last resort to tyranny.

Anyway -- got a question.. If you're so worried about the irrelevence of the that rusty ole Constitution gettin in da way of everything you desire ----- What about the technology and tactics that the GOVT now possessing to INFRINGE on your other rights?

I'm talking about military style policing using Thermal Imaging helicopters to infringe on your 4th amendment? Looking right thru your dam walls. Or your PANTS at the airport. Hows cum all you protectors of "sane" levels of firepower don't seem to get rattled when the tech advantage of 200 years is USED AGAINST you by the govt? Legally, they are attacking almost every other amendment with the advancements that have occurred since the document was written. Can I get even a whiff of concern for THAT? If I do -- then we can chat rationally about accounting for technology gaps in the Federal Constitution..