I hope this has not already been posted. I find it very disturbing

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

And Zimmerman could have backed off when he was told to.

Dave

And if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their ass when they hop.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

And if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their ass when they hop.

It doesn't seem to bother them. Ask Pete. The frogs in Cleveland are friskier than ever.

Dave

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Sorry, you lost me right here. I would never take such an action. I would instead keep moving toward a populated location, like back to the store. While I might gain some advantage by becoming the initial aggressor, I would rather attempt to avoid the confrontation altogether. I still don't know the black man even means me any harm. He may just be traveling the same path as I am, or he may be a community patrol and thinks I look suspicious. If I become the aggressor, I immediately lose my credibility as an innocent citizen.

Ok, you will not be honest.

got it

but

in refusing to it should offer you some self insight

[piece-itpete]

Dave, try as I may, I can't think of a witty or insightful response to that

Pete

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Ok, I've thought about it more. Trayvon was over 6 feet tall and thin. I bet he could run like the wind. Zimmerman is overweight and much slower. If Trayvon felt threatened by the guy he had already stared down and sized up, he could have easily just run around a couple blocks and laughed at the out of breath fat guy trying to follow him.
He did not. He chose confrontation and violence and it was the wrong choice.

Zimmerman is the one who chose to start this.

[Wasillaguy]

Zimmerman chose to keep an eye on what people were doing in his neighborhood. Whether he chose to engage in hostility is not yet clear.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Zimmerman chose to keep an eye on what people were doing in his neighborhood. Whether he chose to engage in hostility is not yet clear.

It's damned clear he killed a kid for shopping while black.

Just what do you get from perverting the truth?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Whether he chose to engage in hostility is not yet clear.

Perhaps to apologists.

Here's the rub: if we paint the kid as a semi-thug and the fat guy as a protective angel, we still can't get around the fact that the fat guy (and the gun he shouldn't have had) made this happen.

[piece-itpete]

Damn fat people.

So, we're still on the black thing eh?

Pete

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Damn fat people.

So, we're still on the black thing eh?

Pete

I'm saying that if you give the kid the worst possible light, and the guy the best, Zimmerman is still the asshole.