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01-25-2012, 05:44 AM
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01-25-2012, 08:23 AM
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I find it somewhat hypocritical when people like Jobs complain about the lack of trained people when these same corporations move to a State that gives them tax holidays. You don't fund the schools and then bitch about them not turning out the people you need.
One other point, the complaint that it would take months to assemble such teams in this country when China does it in days, I'll take a bet that China does not have HR departments to get in the way.
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01-25-2012, 01:17 PM
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One other point, the complaint that it would take months to assemble such teams in this country when China does it in days, I'll take a bet that China does not have HR departments to get in the way.
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Excellent point.
We now have a three tier HR department. An HR Assistant, HR Representative and an HR Manager. A new hire must be interviewed by ALL THREE, after completing at least six months with the temp service.
And losers still manage to get through. So what's the point?
I love it when people try to claim there is less slow moving bureaucracy in the private sector.
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01-27-2012, 12:21 AM
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+1 on Costco, been a member for 20+ years. Those shopping carts make me feel I'm 8 years old again. They're huge! A lot of their stuff is made overseas, too. I WILL NEVER SPEND A DIME OF MY MONEY IN WALMART, NEVER. If I could avoid Home Depot I would treat them the same way. I don't know how many are aware of the contract employees have to sign at HD to work there. You have to sign that you will not organize or be a party to union activities. The consequence is immediate dismissal and you also agree not to sue for such.
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01-27-2012, 12:40 AM
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Craftsman I'm no longer sure about. I've learned that Craftsman may have alot of USA made stock on the shelves, but only until it is depleted. That means once a tool needs to be warrenteed, you'll get an offshore replacement if it's one of the tools they no longer make here. Try to do the right thing and then learn this.. WTF gives?
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01-27-2012, 07:43 AM
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Went into the local Sears looking for small needle nose pliers and dikes- made in China - thank you and goodbye.
Home Despot still caries made in USA if you look for it, but since thheir CEO says he is financially backing the GOP, screw you Jack, not with my money, so I drive to Lowes or the local ACE.
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02-25-2012, 01:47 PM
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+1 on Costco, been a member for 20+ years. Those shopping carts make me feel I'm 8 years old again. They're huge! A lot of their stuff is made overseas, too. I WILL NEVER SPEND A DIME OF MY MONEY IN WALMART, NEVER. If I could avoid Home Depot I would treat them the same way. I don't know how many are aware of the contract employees have to sign at HD to work there. You have to sign that you will not organize or be a party to union activities. The consequence is immediate dismissal and you also agree not to sue for such.
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I'm very surprised to hear this, I believed that an American can not sign away their Constitutional Rights ?
I guess D-Ray will have to chime in here ?
HD must have become part of North Korea.
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02-25-2012, 02:00 PM
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Went into the local Sears looking for small needle nose pliers and dikes- made in China - thank you and goodbye.
Home Despot still caries made in USA if you look for it, but since thheir CEO says he is financially backing the GOP, screw you Jack, not with my money, so I drive to Lowes or the local ACE.
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Like you Merry,
I have 50 years of Craftsman tools. Mostly because of their warranty, and the fact that they advertised that ALL Craftsman Tools were made in the U.S.A.. I'm glad that I will not need any new tools in my lifetime
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02-25-2012, 02:52 PM
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I still have a collection of British Standard Whitworth (BSW) and British Stabdard Finethread (BSF) 1/2" drive sockets down in the basemant. Left over from my days of driving Hillmans and British Ford cars.
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02-25-2012, 05:11 PM
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+1 on Costco, been a member for 20+ years. Those shopping carts make me feel I'm 8 years old again. They're huge! A lot of their stuff is made overseas, too. I WILL NEVER SPEND A DIME OF MY MONEY IN WALMART, NEVER. If I could avoid Home Depot I would treat them the same way. I don't know how many are aware of the contract employees have to sign at HD to work there. You have to sign that you will not organize or be a party to union activities. The consequence is immediate dismissal and you also agree not to sue for such.
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I'm very surprised to hear this, I believed that an American can not sign away their Constitutional Rights ?
I guess D-Ray will have to chime in here ?
HD must have become part of North Korea.
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It's an old tactic, that used to be called a "Yellow Dog" contract. At one point, I believe it was found to be illegal. But the way labor law enforcement has been weakened in this country over the last few decades, they've probably found a way around it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow-dog_contract
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norris-LaGuardia_Act
Dave
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