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01-24-2011, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
With respect to Mark Twain's use of the term, I believe he was aware of the derogatory nature of the term. He used it for the impact and for the contrast between what the word stands for and the quality of the character who bears that name - and in essence overcomes the title given him.
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That's interesting, I hadn't thought of that. The way he writes using the language of the day then creeps up behind and twists it.............
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01-25-2011, 11:04 AM
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It was certainly a descriptive. Look, even negro is something of an insult now. Right now in Ohio there's a big push to rename the department of mental retardation.
Flip side though, I'm at my friends, talking on the front porch, obviously getting ready to leave. A black friend, a neighbor of the other friend, yells from down the street: 'Pete! Pete! You ain't leavin till you try some of my nigger ribs!'
He was a good barbeque chef. Cracks me up to this day lol.
This following attachment has met with uproarious approval from black friends too:
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01-25-2011, 11:09 AM
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I'm surprised no one on the right has claimed that their 1st Amendment rights are being violated. After all, what right does anyone have to tell them what they can say? Where's Rand Paul when you need him? (Sarcasm.)
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01-25-2011, 03:48 PM
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Mark Twain.
"Injun Joe."
Where's the outrage?
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01-25-2011, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke
Mark Twain.
"Injun Joe."
Where's the outrage? 
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01-25-2011, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke
Mark Twain.
"Injun Joe."
Where's the outrage? 
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01-25-2011, 04:25 PM
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as i recall the word "nigger" comes from welsh coal miners and was used to describe the "worthless tailings" left after mining.
when it became used in the british army im not sure but its origin is not from the south US
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01-25-2011, 05:51 PM
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"Nigger" is simply a word, and by itself quite benign. It is only in the context it is used that gives it meaning.
And before Finn starts on me again, I'll cut to the chase.
If you don't want to be offended, don't go through life with a chip on your shoulder. The vast majority of people will never offend you on purpose.
And for the one's who offer the personal insult, don't take it personal...it's not worth it.
If you walk away, they will eventually realize that they've only embarrassed themselves.
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01-25-2011, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles
"Nigger" is simply a word, and by itself quite benign. It is only in the context it is used that gives it meaning.
And before Finn starts on me again, I'll cut to the chase.
If you don't want to be offended, don't go through life with a chip on your shoulder. The vast majority of people will never offend you on purpose.
And for the one's who offer the personal insult, don't take it personal...it's not worth it.
If you walk away, they will eventually realize that they've only embarrassed themselves.
Chas
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It's easier yet when one insults himself - "dumb-ass hillbilly" "rednecks from Bugtussel". It disarms the potential verbal attacker and leaves him vulnerable to the, until then concealed, logical argument. I know how you run Chas.
Regards,
D-Ray
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01-25-2011, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
It's easier yet when one insults himself - "dumb-ass hillbilly" "rednecks from Bugtussel". It disarms the potential verbal attacker and leaves him vulnerable to the, until then concealed, logical argument. I know how you run Chas.
Regards,
D-Ray
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Don, I am a dumb assed hillbilly from Bugtussell.
But thanks for the compliment.
Chas
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