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11-23-2023, 11:28 PM
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The verdict is not yet in on Covid vaccines and boosters. The real verdict is a long term one.
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11-24-2023, 12:42 AM
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The effectiveness of the vaccines is apparent. Gone are the days with many hundreds dying. Hospitals swamped with the sick. The wearing of masks hand sanitizers school closings…..
Memories fade bad ones quickly seem to lesson once a crises is over.
Science helped with this one.
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11-24-2023, 08:29 AM
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1,153,910. Total COVID deaths US as of Nov 11.
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11-24-2023, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
No, just balancing.
Many were deplatformed for just questioning.
There are various reasons why some refused to take the Covid-19 vaccine. Several reasons are not related to politics or Trumpian in nature.
One such reason was the speed of approval.
The.public has become more critical of Big Pharma. Notice for instance the hesitancy towards statins.
I believe there is an hesitancy also towards Covid boosters.
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Balance is a good thing in itself only if you are a newspaper who wants people from both parties to subscribe. And the several reasons are mainly rationalizations adopted because people on your side were supposed to be vaccine-skeptical.
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09-10-2024, 02:55 PM
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The army is missing recruitment targets due to super-strong civilian economy, and is trying anything they can think of to scare up more bodies.
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I agree. But I think of it in the vein of a company going woke and the customers, thanks to free will, can choose to not buy their product. i.e. if you apply unpopular rules to enable people to participate in a thing, participation will be reduced. If it's reduced too much, the market forces you to pull back on some of those requirements.
I think that's what is happening here. They would live to keep the requirement but too many people (in a roundabout way) voted with their feet.
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09-10-2024, 03:00 PM
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That reminds me that I need to get my order in at Penzy's.
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09-10-2024, 03:10 PM
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09-10-2024, 03:50 PM
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I have often given much thought over these so many years since my lucky number at eighteen was three. Just my good fortune and good timing never had to go. They were winding things down in Southeast Asia and having a Father who served in country to advise,
followed his direction to wait things out.
This fact to think about and ponder, what if we still had the draft?
Meaning this, if all male and female of age, ALL were subject to the draft. For one they would be more involved activity in and what is now current events effecting their future.
This fact to be consider also many draftee's once in service will grow and do well. Meaning they found a purpose a direction they lacked before fresh out of school. Or even discipline and training to carry into the next stage in their life.
So with the current state of a all volunteer military in a strong economy we have to take what we get. Have to make adjustments to keep the numbers at the levels required.
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09-11-2024, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
I have often given much thought over these so many years since my lucky number at eighteen was three. Just my good fortune and good timing never had to go. They were winding things down in Southeast Asia and having a Father who served in country to advise,
followed his direction to wait things out.
This fact to think about and ponder, what if we still had the draft?
Meaning this, if all male and female of age, ALL were subject to the draft. For one they would be more involved activity in and what is now current events effecting their future.
This fact to be consider also many draftee's once in service will grow and do well. Meaning they found a purpose a direction they lacked before fresh out of school. Or even discipline and training to carry into the next stage in their life.
So with the current state of a all volunteer military in a strong economy we have to take what we get. Have to make adjustments to keep the numbers at the levels required.
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When I was 18 I thought that was crazy talk. But as I aged I realized the wisdom of a country requiring service from EVERYONE at that age. And the side benefits you mention are tangible. It grows you the hell up.
And look at all of western civilization now. We are a culture of grown children. It's why things are such a mess. Heck, just raise the voting age to 25 and watch how things suddenly become so much more civilized - after the kids throw their "mostly peaceful" tantrum, of course.
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09-11-2024, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oerets
I have often given much thought over these so many years since my lucky number at eighteen was three. Just my good fortune and good timing never had to go. They were winding things down in Southeast Asia and having a Father who served in country to advise,
followed his direction to wait things out.
This fact to think about and ponder, what if we still had the draft?
Meaning this, if all male and female of age, ALL were subject to the draft. For one they would be more involved activity in and what is now current events effecting their future.
This fact to be consider also many draftee's once in service will grow and do well. Meaning they found a purpose a direction they lacked before fresh out of school. Or even discipline and training to carry into the next stage in their life.
So with the current state of a all volunteer military in a strong economy we have to take what we get. Have to make adjustments to keep the numbers at the levels required.
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I think mandatory military service for all citizens, upon reaching a certain age I guess, would probably be a good thing if handles right. As long as those with "connections" could not skip it. Lots of people in this country could use some horizon broadening.
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