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08-25-2024, 03:38 PM
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You can continue to repeat your little mantra all you want. You and yours believe that, but no one else does.
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No one else does? On what basis do you make this statement? I'm sure it'll comes as news to NeverTrumpers and lovers of democracy all across the country and the world. You honestly believe that I stand alone in believing Trump is a threat to democracy?
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08-25-2024, 03:42 PM
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It's easier to con somebody than to convince them they've been conned.
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08-25-2024, 05:13 PM
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Harris isn't proposing that at all. She's saying she'll instruct the FTC to go out an look for evidence of "price gouging" (which also lacks any coherent definition" and impose penalties on any business or industry THEY BELIEVE is charging to much for goods or services.
By any objective definition, that is the government controlling prices.
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What is wrong with that? And try not to put the MAGA spin on this statement, knowledge is not your strong suit.
Isn't that a responsibility of the Federal government? Why else are FTC and other regulatory branches part of the executive? You just stuck your big fat foot in your mouth while playing dumb about Trump being a present and imminent danger to our democracy. Project 2025 not in play anymore and according to whom? Trump the inveterate liar.
Poll some of the western democracies and see what you find, but do it yourself though.
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08-25-2024, 05:26 PM
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QFT and I believe this comes from mental laziness. If information is presented to me that is contrary to my belief, I read/listen, verify and change when change is warranted. Most people do not like being corrected and this is one of the biggest problems I face as a business owner.
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08-25-2024, 07:17 PM
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No one else does? On what basis do you make this statement? I'm sure it'll comes as news to NeverTrumpers and lovers of democracy all across the country and the world. You honestly believe that I stand alone in believing Trump is a threat to democracy?
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Most of the free world are with you, Finn.
Any reasonable person will view Trump as a threat to democracy, a threat to America, and a threat to freedoms.
Then there is Whell and those like him
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08-25-2024, 08:03 PM
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Whell will scream, and cuss, and do 16 kinds of evasions, but he will never never never argue straight and fair. Talking to him as if you can corner him is a utter waste of time, you can never do it. For the love of Ghod, stop taking his bait.
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08-25-2024, 08:09 PM
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QFT and I believe this comes from mental laziness. If information is presented to me that is contrary to my belief, I read/listen, verify and change when change is warranted. Most people do not like being corrected and this is one of the biggest problems I face as a business owner.
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It's a lot deeper than 'laziness.' I think it is damaged people who are most susceptible to Trump Cult Disorder. You can look up the four "F's" of threat/trauma response: Fight, Flight, Freeze, and Fawn. That last one is what authoritarian followers are doing. The strategy is to gain rescue/protection from a powerful leader. And instinctive trauma responses, once they click in, tend to continue indefinitely. We don't resist our own instincts very much.
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08-25-2024, 08:26 PM
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THE NARCISSIST'S NIGHTMARE
Her crowds are larger.
Her applause is louder.
Her audience is more enthusiastic.
She's controlling more narrative.
She's raising more money.
She's procuring more volunteers.
She's casting a wider net.
She's smarter.
She's younger.
She's happier.
She's a woman of color.
She started with nothing.
She's winning.
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08-25-2024, 08:46 PM
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And Whell said, I'm the only one who thinks Trump is a danger to democracy. It seems that those who know him best disagree. 40 out of 44 of those who served in Trump's cabinet have refused to endorse him.
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08-25-2024, 09:19 PM
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What is wrong with that? And try not to put the MAGA spin on this statement, knowledge is not your strong suit.
Isn't that a responsibility of the Federal government? Why else are FTC and other regulatory branches part of the executive?
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I don't have to put any spin on it. All I, or you, have to do is look at history. No government has ever successfully applied price controls.
No, it is not the FTC's role—at least not yet—and any sane person should want to keep it that way.
Here's some irony for you. This is in big letters on the FTC's home page:
The FTC will never demand money, make threats, tell you to transfer money, or promise you a prize.
I guess that'll be true until Harris is elected.
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