Kamala Harris For President!

[Rajoo]

^^The Republican Party did not bother to write or publish a platform in 2020 and this is why I am not taking whell's comment seriously.

Why Republicans didn’t write a platform for their convention this year

My answer is simply that Trump cannot govern, so why put anything down on paper and implicate him?

The Republican Party took an unusual approach to writing its convention platform for 2020: It decided not to write one.

Rather, the GOP is reusing its platform from four years ago, which was written before Donald Trump became president. That means Republican delegates will not go through the usual process of deliberating over policies and principles to determine what the party stands for in 2020, as Democrats recently did.

https://www.vox.com/2020/8/24/213993...form-2020-2016

[donquixote99]

You guys ever notice how when you make excellent well-reasoned sourced posts in response to whell, he nit-picks, distorts, diverts, or ignores them entirely? Why do you bother?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You guys ever notice how when you make excellent well-reasoned sourced posts in response to whell, he nit-picks, distorts, diverts, or ignores them entirely? Why do you bother?

Altruism. My duty to humanity compels me to provide him the rational to leave the cult of Trump. It's a tough sell though.

Once you sell your soul to a cult leader, it takes a lot of reflection and self-awareness to escape his grasp. It requires one to admit how they've allowed themselves to be manipulated by a pathological liar, cynical demagogue and sociopathic malignant narcissist.

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You guys ever notice how when you make excellent well-reasoned sourced posts in response to whell, he nit-picks, distorts, diverts, or ignores them entirely? Why do you bother?

I asked what her positions on the issues are. Still don't have much of an answer. The two takeaways from the last few posts are:

1) Pro-choice - no big mystery there. You just need to be a Democrat for that one.
2) Defeat Trump - which would by any opposing candidate's goal in an election.

Energy policy? More environmentalist solutions? Not sure, since she was against fracking before she was for it. Which may change again after the election. Do we continue to buy the world's oil, continuing to be customers of hostile/less than friendly regimes, or expand our own sources/supplies?

Foreign policy? Are we going to cede more global influence to Russia and China like we have the last 4 years? Are we going to continue to promote the stalemate in the Russian - Ukraine war? Does she have and end-game plan for that war? You guys might not like an "America first" foreign policy, but I like a "globalist" foreign policy even less.

And that's just for starters.

Its little things like this are what I'm curious about. Maybe y'all aren't.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I asked what her positions on the issues are. Still don't have much of an answer. The two takeaways from the last few posts are:

1) Pro-choice - no big mystery there. You just need to be a Democrat for that one.
2) Defeat Trump - which would by any opposing candidate's goal in an election.

Energy policy? More environmentalist solutions? Not sure, since she was against fracking before she was for it. Which may change again after the election. Do we continue to buy the world's oil, continuing to be customers of hostile/less than friendly regimes, or expand our own sources/supplies?

Foreign policy? Are we going to cede more global influence to Russia and China like we have the last 4 years? Are we going to continue to promote the stalemate in the Russian - Ukraine war? Does she have and end-game plan for that war? You guys might not like an "America first" foreign policy, but I like a "globalist" foreign policy even less.

And that's just for starters.

Its little things like this are what I'm curious about. Maybe y'all aren't.

You seem fundamentally incapable of understanding that the primary animating issue in this election is Democracy vs. Autocracy. This is the very reason that Trump ditched (and has tried to disown) his own policy blueprint for the next term as his plan for turning the federal government into a MAGA autocracy came into full view.

And now that Project 2025 has been (unconvincingly) disavowed by Trump, what are his policy proposals beyond Making America Great Again Again while sucking up to the world's despots he so admires and wants to emulate?

Unlike Republicans, the Democrats will debate and settle on a party platform at their upcoming convention and I bet it won't simply be "whatever Kamala wants" as it was for Trump. And whatever it is, its objective will not be turning America into an autocracy.

[Rajoo]

[QUOTE=whell;430543]I asked what her positions on the issues are. Still don't have much of an answer. The two takeaways from the last few posts are:

1) Pro-choice - no big mystery there. You just need to be a Democrat for that one.
2) Defeat Trump - which would by any opposing candidate's goal in an election.
QUOTE]

1. You are full of shit again.

Michigan your home state: Voters enshrined abortion protections in the state Constitution in 2022.

Ohio, your neighboring state and deep red: Voters enshrined abortion protections in the state Constitution in 2023.

Kansas: The State Supreme Court ruled in 2019 that a pregnant woman’s right to personal autonomy is protected in the state Constitution, and in 2022, Kansans rejected a ballot measure that would have removed the right to abortion from the state Constitution.

Montana & Wyoming: The state supreme courts have blocked bans on abortion.

Wisconsin: Legal due to a ruling by a judge, but may be bumped to the state supreme court where it is expected to be withheld.

2. There are actually Republican groups who are opposing Felonious Trump, not just the opposing candidate. And why are GOP donors funding Robert Kennedy Jr's campaign or what is left of it.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...oe-v-wade.html

[Pio1980]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...droidApp_Other

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I asked what her positions on the issues are. Still don't have much of an answer.

And after a recent 64 minute Trump news conference, we most certainly don't know Trump's positions (other than dictator envy). The primary reason is that he lied 162 times in those 64 minutes.

A team of NPR reporters and editors reviewed the transcript of his news conference and found at least 162 misstatements, exaggerations and outright lies in 64 minutes. That’s more than two a minute. It’s a stunning number for anyone – and even more problematic for a person running to lead the free world.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1...ews-conference

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Its little things like this are what I'm curious about. Maybe y'all aren't.

And since you are so curious, this should interest you.

Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), the GOP vice-presidential nominee, sidestepped questions about Donald Trump suggesting that he is open to curbing access to abortion pills.

Is this a flip flop, a term Repugnants love to use?

Trump has stated publicly that he would direct FDA to revoke access to Mifepristone and is now Vance walking this back? Isn't this saying yes to abortion? What will Jesus Johnson and his Evangelical whackjobs say?

Looks like Vance has been Walzed and does not want to be called a weirdo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...PKZV2C5Z3UQLKI

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You seem fundamentally incapable of understanding that the primary animating issue in this election is Democracy vs. Autocracy.

I'm sure you and yours believe that. No one else does. Or they watched the autocratic behavior of the Dems over the last 4 years and decided that there’s not much difference.

Originally Posted by finnbow

…the Democrats will debate and settle on a party platform at their upcoming convention and I bet it won't simply be "whatever Kamala wants".

Ok, I get it. You support her because she isn’t Trump, and the fact that you have no idea what she stands for is irrelevant to you.


A “party platform” is just marketing. It doesn’t always correlate to what an elected official believes in, or what they may or may not do in office. You get that, right? Or is “wait for the convention” just the current Dem talking point?