FAKE NEWS EXPOSED: A Service of PoliticalChat.com

[RickeyM]

OH THE HORROR!

Fox News Flips Out Over Biden

I think I'll be buying a pair of Sketchers now.

[Chicks]

Faux "News" left confused by map that shows Republicans loving Barbie – despite conservative pundit backlash
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2381103.html

The horror! ROFL. Goofballs of Whell's World occasionally won't be led around by their noses.

[RickeyM]

About that. This opinion piece on Salon lays bare the Reich-wing culture war and explains the Barbie Reaction.

The "Barbie" backlash isn't just cynical

Second, and more important, they use these cultural moments to reinforce a message of alienation and paranoia, separating their followers even further from the majority of everyday Americans and pushing them deeper into the world of hermetic right-wing nuttery.

IE, a cult.

[finnbow]

Trump lawyer claims bad headlines about him count as "election interference."

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-lawyer-...172627394.html

This is what happens when you hire a lawyer whose most important previous work involved representing New Jersey parking garages.

[Rajoo]

https://youtu.be/50Q7tgb2OtQ?t=4

[RedTide]

I liked reading that Salon article. But if the intention of the right wing media is to radicalize and isolate people, how do you interact with people (for example on AK) to let them know that they are not isolated?

On AK, there is guy with a name like MuseChaser, who I think is a professional piano player, and fairly intelligent. But the guy overestimates his abilities as far as I can tell. Here he is in on an AI thread talking about being a hobbyist airplane pilot which makes him know more than the FAA folks: https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/in...#post-16525867.

On a Barbie thread he was ready to fight about a Barbie movie thread that the OP deleted: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index....#post-16533974

How do you make people like MuseChaser less radical?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by RedTide

I liked reading that Salon article. But if the intention of the right wing media is to radicalize and isolate people, how do you interact with people (for example on AK) to let them know that they are not isolated?

On AK, there is guy with a name like MuseChaser, who I think is a professional piano player, and fairly intelligent. But the guy overestimates his abilities as far as I can tell. Here he is in on an AI thread talking about being a hobbyist airplane pilot which makes him know more than the FAA folks: https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/in...#post-16525867.

On a Barbie thread he was ready to fight about a Barbie movie thread that the OP deleted: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index....#post-16533974

How do you make people like MuseChaser less radical?

Making a committed radical climb down is sometimes called deprograming. You aren't going to ever ever do it on a message board. Takes long term effort by someone who has a trusted in-person relationship. Only constructive thing you can do on a message board would be a brief contra message that shows the falseness of their beliefs, to help counter the effect of their messaging on third parties.

[barbara]

If Trump would keep his mouth shut it would eliminate most of the interfering headlines.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by RedTide

I liked reading that Salon article. But if the intention of the right wing media is to radicalize and isolate people, how do you interact with people (for example on AK) to let them know that they are not isolated?

On AK, there is guy with a name like MuseChaser, who I think is a professional piano player, and fairly intelligent. But the guy overestimates his abilities as far as I can tell. Here he is in on an AI thread talking about being a hobbyist airplane pilot which makes him know more than the FAA folks: https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/in...#post-16525867.

On a Barbie thread he was ready to fight about a Barbie movie thread that the OP deleted: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index....#post-16533974

How do you make people like MuseChaser less radical?

I am familiar with this guy, have tangled with him a few times on EV and alternate/reusable energy threads.

He has no formal technical training that I know of, yet puts up voluminous posts pretending to be Einstein. On technical topics if someone cannot tell me why, they are just bullshitting and I can spot them a mile away. He is either an idiot or a moron trying to come off as intelligent and well informed while failing badly. Ignore button is your friend.

If I am anti EV, anti solar, anti vaccine etc., I may let it be known that I am not a proponent and why. But I sure as hell don't get bent out of shape when you tell me that you love your EV or avoid going out in public without a mask. Its common sense.

And I agree with DQ, one cannot reason with a MAGAt. I have two close friends and an employee who are committed Trumpers. After five years, I don't bother discussing politics or any other informative topics. They will quote Faux till you are red in the face.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Making a committed radical climb down is sometimes called deprograming. You aren't going to ever ever do it on a message board. Takes long term effort by someone who has a trusted in-person relationship. Only constructive thing you can do on a message board would be a brief contra message that shows the falseness of their beliefs, to help counter the effect of their messaging on third parties.

I agree, we're not going to get through to them on message boards and social media. I have a family member that's gone down the rabbit hole. The recently made a comment about offshore windmills causing whale beachings. A couple of winters ago when Texas's power grid went tits-up she repeated the nonsense about windmill failures being the problem. I informed them that those sources gave a max of 10% of Texas's energy they seemed surprised. All this nuttery they heard on Reich-wing angertainment radio of course.
A question I have yet to get a straight answer for (ever since 2016) is if tRump is so great why does he lie so much? Not one straight answer.