Putin Invades the Ukraine

[bobabode]

“Today, in just 18 minutes, service members of #UAarmy shot down 4 russian helicopters that were spoiling beautiful autumn skies in the south of Ukraine. No place for Alligators here. The local climate is hostile towards them.”



Das vedanya, terrorists.

[donquixote99]

Saw a video like that the other day. But it was simulated, alas.

[finnbow]

[Pio1980]

'Pubs seem poised to appease a tyrant and betray allies again if they regain control of policy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...-putin-2022-10

[BigElCat]

Enough talk, Putin. Get out of the Crimea, all the way back to Russia.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-rea...094905039.html

[Dondilion]

Ukraine War Will End With Negotiations.

From https://foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/u...d-negotiations

-If the administration does not prepare soon, it may find its carefully calibrated response to war being overtaken by a dangerous fantasy of absolute victory.

At the same time, the economic fallout of the war is rapidly growing.

All this makes the administration's position - that Kyiv alone will decide when the war ends - increasingly untenable.

[Pio1980]

Appeasing an avaricious tyrant is an untenable strategy.
Ukraine isn't a buffet for conquest by invasion, it's a sovereign country with it's own identity and international recognition.
Russia agreed to guarantee its sovereign security in return for surrendering custody of nuclear weapons capabilities.
W. T. F. ?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Ukraine War Will End With Negotiations.

From https://foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/u...d-negotiations

-If the administration does not prepare soon, it may find its carefully calibrated response to war being overtaken by a dangerous fantasy of absolute victory.

At the same time, the economic fallout of the war is rapidly growing.

All this makes the administration's position - that Kyiv alone will decide when the war ends - increasingly untenable.

Like Stalin or Hitler, Putin is not someone you can negotiate with (or trust that he'll adhere to any agreement).

There will be peace in Ukraine when there are no more Russian soldiers on Ukrainian soil to kill.

[donquixote99]

Putin is like a school shooter. He will never turn back. He will kill until he is killed. Or until, cornered, he shoots himself.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Ukraine cannot take kherson. It tried woefully hard and did not make an impact.

Now I believe Zelensky has blundered by putting so much of his force in one spot just near the border with Russia.

Russia’s Kherson retreat plan ‘well advanced,’ says Western official
Russian collaborators also say troops are likely to retreat across the Dnipro River, but the Ukrainian military is wary of ‘tricks.’

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...tern-official/