Tammy Duckworth

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

Guess who’s been drinking the FOX Kool-aid?

Even Faux isn't as clueless as this idiot Ford Pinto.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Despite his impeachment trial acquittal, Trump clearly guilty of a high crime

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...f-a-high-crime

If Trump really believes he did not commit any crimes and any impeachable offenses, why would he orchestrate blocking evidence? And who – having taken an oath to do "impartial justice" – would close their eyes to the truth? How could such a marathon of speeches possibly be considered a trial?

Trump will luxuriate in his victory. But the personal victory for him is a legal assault on the Constitution. The president has taken an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. Instead, he has trashed it.

How? By manipulating Senate Republicans to bar firsthand evidence and keep it from senatorial and public scrutiny, Trump and his Senate collaborators have insulated him and future presidents from the moral and constitutional truism that no president is above the law.

Somewhere, Richard Nixon is smiling.

[RickeyM]

Speaking of blocking evidence...
underoath.jpg

[FordGT90]

If Trump really believes he did not commit any crimes and any impeachable offenses, why would he orchestrate blocking evidence?

Because Congress is only to question official policy and not how the policy is made. The policy itself becomes a matter of public record so questioning people that formulated the policy is unnecessary. Basically what Schiff and co tried to do of the administration is akin to the administration attempting to require closed sessions of Schiff's committee be made public. It's unfair in both cases. Note that Trump didn't actually stop anyone from testifying that wanted to. He extended executive privilege to Fauci twice, for example, and Fauci declined it twice.

A Constitutional judge/scholar would know these things which explains why Andrew Napolitano didn't: he is neither.


Also @Chicks: lay off the opinion media. If the publisher can't vet the information then it's opinion. Information that can't be vetted is not reliable.

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Speaking of blocking evidence...
Attachment 3539

Except that's false. The only person that claimed he was guilty was Vindman and his information was third or fourth hand AND his superior (Tim Morrison) spoke of Vindman having problems fitting in with the National Security Council.



Anyway...we're getting off topic here. On topic, if Duckworth is named as VP pick, it will immediately trigger federal lawsuits vis-a-vis "natural born citizen."

[RickeyM]

Does that natural born citizen clause apply? It specifies president but doesn't say anything about vice-president.

[FordGT90]

https://constitution.congress.gov/co...ion/article-2/
Article II, Section 1:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

In order to assume the "Office of President," the Vice President must meet the same requirements or he/she is disqualified from becoming President.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Except that's false. The only person that claimed he was guilty was Vindman and his information was third or fourth hand AND his superior (Tim Morrison) spoke of Vindman having problems fitting in with the National Security Council.

Except that's a lie. Taylor, Kemp, Yovanovitch, Vindman and others implicated Trump.

[QUOTE=FordGT90;389545
Anyway...we're getting off topic here. On topic, if Duckworth is named as VP pick, it will immediately trigger federal lawsuits vis-a-vis "natural born citizen."[/QUOTE]

Got your fingers crossed, eh? L. Tammy Duckworth was born in Bangkok, Thailand, the daughter of Franklin Duckworth and Lamai Sompornpairin. Under long standing US law, she is a natural-born citizen because her father is American. Same bullshit we heard outta you people and your criminal president to be, in 2008. Confederates like you people want the law changed, no doubt.

Tammy sure don't look like no real 'Murcan, eh?

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Except that's a lie. Taylor, Kemp, Yovanovitch, Vindman and others implicated Trump.

You may have noticed that Ford Pinto has a very nasty habit of passing off reich-wing nuttery as "fact", and calling facts "opinions". He's a nutter, best ignored.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

In order to assume the "Office of President," the Vice President must meet the same requirements or he/she is disqualified from becoming President.

Thanks Captain Obvious but it still doesn't answer the question about the Vice-President being the Vice-president.


Ike Bana, didja' notice not a peep outta the Repubes when Ted "Rafael" Cruz was running for prez?

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Except that's a lie. Taylor, Kemp, Yovanovitch, Vindman and others implicated Trump.

Taylor, Kemp, and Yovanovitch were aware of the call, specifically, Ukraine asking questions about it. They didn't say Trump did anything illegal but it did make a lot of headaches for for the State Department.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Got your fingers crossed, eh? L. Tammy Duckworth was born in Bangkok, Thailand, the daughter of Franklin Duckworth and Lamai Sompornpairin. Under long standing US law, she is a natural-born citizen because her father is American.

She has birthright citizenship, not natural-born citizenship. Birthright citizenship simply means you're the daughter or son of an American citizen and filed the appropriate paperwork with the US government. Natural-born, on the other hand, could mean a lot of things but it's a question SCOTUS has yet to answer. It could mean royalty or it could mean born on sovereign US soil. I tend to think the former is most probable given the context in which Constitution was written. UK could have easily endeavored to send a prince or princess here to win the Presidency effectively giving the country back to the Crown. If that is the case, Cruz, McCain, Obama, and Duckworth are/were elgible because at least one of their parents, each, are US citizens. Schwarzenegger is not because his parents weren't US citizens. This is why he never tried to run: there's no interpretation in his favor.

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Thanks Captain Obvious but it still doesn't answer the question about the Vice-President being the Vice-president.

12th amendment, last sentence:
https://constitution.congress.gov/co.../amendment-12/

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Ike Bana, didja' notice not a peep outta the Repubes when Ted "Rafael" Cruz was running for prez?

I was glad Cruz lost the primary because he would have been challenged by Democrats on his eligibility to hold the office.




Tammy Duckworth is not going to be Biden's VP. Transition is going to be hard enough without triggering VP eligibility lawsuits and potentially having a VP vacancy. Picking her guarantees that legal battle.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Chicks

You may have noticed that Ford Pinto has a very nasty habit of passing off reich-wing nuttery as "fact", and calling facts "opinions". He's a nutter, best ignored.

I haven't been around much lately... not of my own choice of course, so I don't have a clue who this guy is. AK guy? I'm not so good at ignoring. Probably why I'm relegated to an involuntary break now and then. Entertainment, along with doing battle with trumper deplorables, co-conspiratorial Republican voters, and enemies of the State of Israel is why I hang out in these joints. So I'm not always a very good little lockstep progressive, but watcha see is pretty much watcha gon' git.