Joe Biden For President

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Just a word to the wise, no person is "you right wingers". I won't slap a group identity on you, and then pile all of that "group's" sins on you, mkay?

Ummm.....you do that all the time. It is a primary debate tactic yours, generalizing to the many (Democrats or lefties or BLM) from one individual or a few. In fact, it is a centrality any time you right wingers discuss liberals of any stripe.if I had the time and the inclination, I delve into your posts of the last week or so and find numerous examples.
Psychological projection from you.

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

I think he did quite a bit before the pandemic. And what makes it incredible is that this is with an MSM attacking at every turn and, eventually, a house in scorched earth mode from day one.

That he got anything done at all is amazing.

I remember when they were voting on Obamacare. The press was saying that he was getting no wins and he really needed that one.

As I previously stated, I simply don't agree. You right-wingers have "lists" and I have seen lots of them, but an analysis of them shows mostly garbage like "drained the swamp" when everyone who has any ability to reason at all knows that he created the biggest swamp of corruption since who knows when--certainly larger than Nixon, for instance.
As for the MSM "attacking", all they really do is to REPORT what he does and says. It is hardly there fault that he pretty much sounds like a second grade idiot when he talks extemporaneously, or that he has involved himself in one scandal after another, or that he is hateful and petty to the point that he can't let even one slight go unanswered. That is extremely immature like, once again, a second grader on a playground. Or the megalomania need to constantly reference how great he himself is.
If he really wants good press, all that he has to do is to act like a decent and mature and thoughtful human being who, as president, has the best for the citizens of the nation as his primary goal.
That is evidently simply too difficult for him.

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Yep. Every successful person that was "second generation" immigrant who's biography I ever read said that in their home they were FORCED to use English. When you immigrate to a country that speaks a language other than your own, the first step to success is to become fluent in that nation's tongue.

A comical side note: I'm in IT and work with a lot of guys from India. They converse in English because they all come from different Indian dialects. Their one common denominator is English.

I have to say that the people from India seem to have a genetic trait that leads to intelligence. Lots of people in professions like medicine and computers.
And yes, my great-grandparents came from Germany and they spoke a whole lot of German because lots of other Germans also immigrated to the area and bought farms and so there was a lot of German speaking. My grandparents were rather fluent in German, but of course English was their primary language. My mother and her siblings could talk a bit of German, but it was mostly just gibberish. The only German word that I learned was "orslok" (sp?) because the adults were often herd referring to others by that German foul word.
The German immigrants of the mid-to-late 19th century were different from other nationalities such as the Irish and the Italians in that they did not run to the cities to form enclaves, but went out into the heartland and bought farmland all across the upper and central Midwest. There was actually a German language newspaper in my small town until WWI began, at which time is was belayed because they didn't want to seem as if they were favoring the enemy at that time.
Anyway, I have indeed heard lots and lots of right-wingers FALSELY make the claim that the immigrants from south of the border "won't learn English". Yes, they will. In the second generation and beyond, because that is how they will integrate into American society.

[bobabode]

That German word is 'arschloch'. i.e. asshole.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

I have to say that the people from India seem to have a genetic trait that leads to intelligence. Lots of people in professions like medicine and computers.

In my career as a data scientist, I worked with lots of people from various parts of India (it's a big, very diverse, country). My work better half, a young lady from India, spoke five languages, including excellent English - better than many of the Trumpkin idiots who worked in far less demanding jobs at our office.

She would practice vocabulary words every day, and we would always work together on her work correspondence, to get them as professional as possible. English is a tricky language.

Her twin boys, of course, are excellent English readers and speakers, and excel at school, both being at the top of their classes.

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by bobabode

That German word is 'arschloch'. i.e. asshole.

That's why I put (sp?) behind it. Thanks for the correction.
My parents had not told me what it meant, but I heard them say it quite often, so I started calling some of my classmates by that name....*L*….until my mother heard it and told me no longer to do it. *L*

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by Chicks

In my career as a data scientist, I worked with lots of people from various parts of India (it's a big, very diverse, country). My work better half, a young lady from India, spoke five languages, including excellent English - better than many of the Trumpkin idiots who worked in far less demanding jobs at our office.

She would practice vocabulary words every day, and we would always work together on her work correspondence, to get them as professional as possible. English is a tricky language.

Her twin boys, of course, are excellent English readers and speakers, and excel at school, both being at the top of their classes.

And youngsters of India heritage win the national spelling bee almost every year. *L*

[watsup1000]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

Ummm.....you do that all the time. It is a primary debate tactic yours, generalizing to the many (Democrats or lefties or BLM) from one individual or a few. In fact, it is a centrality any time you right wingers discuss liberals of any stripe.if I had the time and the inclination, I delve into your posts of the last week or so and find numerous examples.
Psychological projection from you.

You evidently see "right wingers" as pejorative while I consider it as actuality. You use generalizations all the time from the few to the organization itself. Thus when you say "Democrats" (which you, BTW, no doubt, use as a pejorative as I can tell that by the manner in which you use it), you use it as all-encompassing when it might just be a small number who "believe" what you are accusing them of.
The only way to avoid such generalizations is to debate POLICY and policy alone, without reference to the group which may (or may not) support those policies. You obviously use BLM as a pejorative instead of debating whether their goals are worthy.
You sure do take umbrage easily while delving out plenty of muffled insult.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

That's why I put (sp?) behind it. Thanks for the correction.
My parents had not told me what it meant, but I heard them say it quite often, so I started calling some of my classmates by that name....*L*….until my mother heard it and told me no longer to do it. *L*

Pop would've put his size 11 foot up my arsch if he caught me using that word. He served in France and Germany under Patton during the war and spoke German fairly fluently. I can just barely order a bier in my family's 'mother tongue'.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

Umm, no matter what you right wingers claim, the fact is that almost every non-English immigrant that came to the US over the centuries did not know English. Italian, German, Chinese, you name it. They often set up enclaves in the cities or towns where they talked to one another in their native language and had newspapers promoted in that language. It was normally the second generation that became fluent in English. The immigrants from south of the border are no different. The second generation will not only use English, but will WANT to do so in order to fit into society.
It’s always been that way, and it hasn’t changed a bit today.

Ok but i also have the same story of, since we are in the USA we will learn english. Early immigrants had respect and I have heard a few stories of their parents or grandparents saying "we will speak English in this household because we are in america".