Trump Is on Point: The Covid-infected Are Fleeing Mexico…for US Hospitals

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Green card carrying people presenting at the border are one source of COVID-19 cases climbing in USA. They're not the only source because cases have been rising sharply pretty much everywhere in the country:

Really, the significance of these immigrants is that they're causing ICUs to fill up along the border because they're receiving cases from USA and Mexico

I was waiting for the "Green Card" and "immigrants" blaming to show up. The article I read said "Most of the coronavirus patients crossing the border, they say, are Americans.". That's from the Left-ist source you link to.

As I said that's a stretch, even for Donny, to both blame & claim in almost the same sentence.
Nice attempt to deflect with the big colorful chart tho'.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Really, the significance of these immigrants is that they're causing ICUs to fill up along the border because they're receiving cases from USA and Mexico.

See post #16, in which actual experts debunk your idiotic conspiracy theory. You're almost as disgusting as the Insane clown.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

I was waiting for the "Green Card" and "immigrants" blaming to show up. The article I read said "Most of the coronavirus patients crossing the border, they say, are Americans.". That's from the Left-ist source you link to.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22V365

The surge in patients consisted of U.S. citizens who live in Mexicali, capital of the Mexican state of Baja California, and were turned away from hospitals overrun with coronavirus cases there, said Dr. Adolphe Edward, chief executive officer of the El Centro Regional Medical Center.

About 80% of residents in the larger Imperial Valley, straddling both sides of the border, are Hispanic, with many considered bi-national. An estimated 265,000 U.S. citizens and Mexicans with American “green cards” conferring permanent-residency status, live in Baja. Many are retirees.

Visa, green card, what have you, the immigration on this topic is not illegal: they're permitted to enter the USA; however, it is creating a massive healthcare crisis on the border that isn't as severe anywhere else. As the situation deteriorates in Mexico, so too will the healthcare situation deteriorate along the border.

Originally Posted by Chicks

See post #16, in which actual experts debunk your idiotic conspiracy theory. You're almost as disgusting as the Insane clown.

I don't trust "fact check" websites because they too carry a ton of omission bias. Case in point from what you quoted:

Nor did the experts we contacted believe there is any validity to Trump’s assertion that Mexico has contributed to the rise of cases in the U.S.

They obviously didn't talk to the correct experts because they completely missed what Reuters found quoted above. There are coming from Mexico but they're people that can legally enter the USA.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

I don't trust "fact check" websites

Once again, despite your obvious love of spouting your own uninformed opinions, they really don't matter, not one iota. Subject matter experts do matter, and they debunk your idiotic conspiratorial opinions, every time.

So, you rail against the experts. SAD! You're a pathetic clone of Rush Limblow.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22V365
Quote:
The surge in patients consisted of U.S. citizens who live in Mexicali, capital of the Mexican state of Baja California, and were turned away from hospitals overrun with coronavirus cases there, said Dr. Adolphe Edward, chief executive officer of the El Centro Regional Medical Center.

Once again blaming immigrants and Mexicans but you keep posting links to articles saying otherwise. You're not good at this are you?

[donquixote99]

His friend said he argues positions he doesn't actually believe in. In such situations, going through the motions often seems good enough.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Once again blaming immigrants and Mexicans but you keep posting links to articles saying otherwise. You're not good at this are you?

"Immigrate" isn't the appropriate word, I apologize. What I meant is that they are citizens (e.g. birthright citizenship) but they aren't permanent residents in the USA either. They're not necessarily immigrating because they don't have residence in the USA so they're technically visiting but visiting generally doesn't describe what they're doing with crossing an international border. It's complicated.

The point is still the same: COVID-19 cases in Mexico are coming to the USA for treatment filling border ICUs with cases. I don't particularly have a problem with that either because Hippocratic oath knows no borders. If someone is in need, healthcare providers have a duty to help. ...someone has to pay for it though...

Originally Posted by donquixote99

His friend said he argues positions he doesn't actually believe in.

My positions are amorphous unless pinned down by context and specific questions. I do delight in philosophical debate.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

It's complicated.

Let me spell it out for you - it's the absolutely critical workforce, without which you would be paying FAR more for your food. Many of whom are being taken advantage of by the very same billionaires who have so corrupted our democracy by financing the path to put an incompetent, corrupt, narcissistic sociopath in the Oval Office.

[FordGT90]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Industrial scale food production relies on cheap (and frequently undocumented) migrant labor to reduce the cost of harvesting & processing those food products.