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Old 12-03-2017, 12:05 PM
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The dossier is fake period. Politico is trying hard to make the document substantive by placing it within the context of Trumps connections with the Russians. Politico is simply stretching. It does not want to give up a salacious dossier even if all respectable organs give the document a big thumbs down.
I understand that you don't want anything to reflect poorly on Mother Russia, but quite a number of the findings in the dossier have proven true.

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow before the 2016 US election.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carte...ossier-2017-11
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:19 PM
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The dossier is fake period. Politico is trying hard to make the document substantive by placing it within the context of Trumps connections with the Russians. Politico is simply stretching. It does not want to give up a salacious dossier even if all respectable organs give the document a big thumbs down.
Name three of these respectable organs.
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:32 PM
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In today's NY Times:
WASHINGTON — A conservative operative trumpeting his close ties to the National Rifle Association and Russia told a Trump campaign adviser last year that he could arrange a back-channel meeting between Donald J. Trump and Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian president, according to an email sent to the Trump campaign.

A May 2016 email to the campaign adviser, Rick Dearborn, bore the subject line “Kremlin Connection.” In it, the N.R.A. member said he wanted the advice of Mr. Dearborn and Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, then a foreign policy adviser to Mr. Trump and Mr. Dearborn’s longtime boss, about how to proceed in connecting the two leaders.

Russia, he wrote, was “quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the U.S.” and would attempt to use the N.R.A.’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., to make “‘first contact.’” The email, which was among a trove of campaign-related documents turned over to investigators on Capitol Hill, was described in detail to The New York Times.

Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russian interference in the election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign, secured a guilty plea on Friday from President Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, for lying to the F.B.I. about contacts with Moscow’s former ambassador to the United States. But those contacts came after Mr. Trump’s improbable election victory.
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:00 PM
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In today's NY Times:
WASHINGTON — A conservative operative trumpeting his close ties to the National Rifle Association and Russia told a Trump campaign adviser last year that he could arrange a back-channel meeting between Donald J. Trump and Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian president, according to an email sent to the Trump campaign.

A May 2016 email to the campaign adviser, Rick Dearborn, bore the subject line “Kremlin Connection.” In it, the N.R.A. member said he wanted the advice of Mr. Dearborn and Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, then a foreign policy adviser to Mr. Trump and Mr. Dearborn’s longtime boss, about how to proceed in connecting the two leaders.

Russia, he wrote, was “quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the U.S.” and would attempt to use the N.R.A.’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., to make “‘first contact.’” The email, which was among a trove of campaign-related documents turned over to investigators on Capitol Hill, was described in detail to The New York Times.

Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russian interference in the election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign, secured a guilty plea on Friday from President Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, for lying to the F.B.I. about contacts with Moscow’s former ambassador to the United States. But those contacts came after Mr. Trump’s improbable election victory.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/u...-campaign.html
So what .
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:36 PM
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:00 PM
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So what .
Yeah, it is pretty much a given Trump actually is a Russian agent laundering rubles through his properties.

Might get him some prime Crimea property for a resort and golf course too.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:20 PM
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Name three of these respectable organs.
Definitive for me:

The BBC would not touch it.

Now the BBC produced a rambling article with the heading - Trump Russia Dossier Key Claim 'Verified'.

What is the key claim? That a Russian diplomat in Washington was in fact a spy. WTF

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:00 PM
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Name three of these respectable organs.
Dondilion's last sentence is speculative and a pointed opinion about Politico.
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:08 PM
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I understand that you don't want anything to reflect poorly on Mother Russia, but quite a number of the findings in the dossier have proven true.

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow before the 2016 US election.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carte...ossier-2017-11

The information is general. Every headline now will be linked to the dossier.

The dossier is salacious.
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:10 PM
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Definitive for me:

The BBC would not touch it.

Now the BBC produced a rambling article with the heading - Trump Russia Dossier Key Claim 'Verified'.

What is the key claim? That a Russian diplomat in Washington was in fact a spy. WTF

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786
That article is over 8 months old. Even in a slow moving investigation like this one the article cannot be considered up to date. Although I've seen nothing to date tying Donald Trump and the Russians in a steal the presidency conspiracy.
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