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08-17-2017, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Let's start a petition to label The Band as a bunch of racists, and assure that all their music - including and especially the song "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" - never gets another second of airplay on any radio station or streaming service. And let's also label Joan Baez and Johnny Cash as a couple of racists for covering that song and ban their music as well. Throw them all under the bus.
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Don't have to listen or buy the offending music do ya! Everyone's tax dollars to support a racists agenda a different story completely. Melt them down to make freedom bells I say.
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08-17-2017, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Let's start a petition to label The Band as a bunch of racists, and assure that all their music - including and especially the song "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" - never gets another second of airplay on any radio station or streaming service. And let's also label Joan Baez and Johnny Cash as a couple of racists for covering that song and ban their music as well. Throw them all under the bus.
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You're an idiot. TNTDODD was written by a Canadian as a first-person narrative of social distress experienced by a poor white Southerner during the last year of the American Civil War. WTF does that have to do with Trump embracing Neo-Nazis?
Like my father before me, I will work the land
Like my brother above me, who took a rebel stand
He was just eighteen, proud and brave, but a Yankee laid him in his grave
I swear by the mud below my feet,
You can't raise a Caine back up when he's in defeat
It seems to me Trump and his Lost Cause fanboys are indeed trying to raise Caine.
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08-17-2017, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Let's start a petition to label The Band as a bunch of racists, and assure that all their music - including and especially the song "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" - never gets another second of airplay on any radio station or streaming service. And let's also label Joan Baez and Johnny Cash as a couple of racists for covering that song and ban their music as well. Throw them all under the bus.
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I'll still shoot any Yankee who tries to burn my copy.
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Last edited by nailer; 08-17-2017 at 09:11 AM.
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08-17-2017, 08:55 AM
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Apparently written as a dirge for the defeated South and the"lost Cause" from a poor white Southern perspective.
Discussion of lyrics and performances here;
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1106
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08-17-2017, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
You're an idiot. TNTDODD was written by a Canadian as a first-person narrative of social distress experienced by a poor white Southerner during the last year of the American Civil War. WTF does that have to do with Trump embracing Neo-Nazis?
Like my father before me, I will work the land
Like my brother above me, who took a rebel stand
He was just eighteen, proud and brave, but a Yankee laid him in his grave
I swear by the mud below my feet,
You can't raise a Caine back up when he's in defeat
It seems to me Trump and his Lost Cause fanboys are indeed trying to raise Caine.
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You're an undulating flow of old mucus, but that's beside the point.
Yes, the song is absolutely about Southern Heritage. It invokes sympathy for those whose lives were forever changed by the civil war. It recalls the dead who fought in that war The lyric you cite above invokes the memory of a Confederate Soldier who was "proud and brave", who fought for something he believed in (he took a rebel stand).
But I guess your interest in this topic is a bit to "surface" and "Trump focused" to understand that. The core of the question really is: what did it really mean to "take a rebel stand". To folks like Ike, and probably you, it ONLY means racism apparently.
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08-17-2017, 09:00 AM
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Pretty sure The Band's version was a cover and I'll shoot any Yankee who tries to burn my copy. 
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Nope. It was written by members of the Band, primarily Robbie Robertson.
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08-17-2017, 09:06 AM
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You're an undulating flow of old mucus, but that's beside the point.
Yes, the song is absolutely about Southern Heritage. It invokes sympathy for those whose lives were forever changed by the civil war. It recalls the dead who fought in that war The lyric you cite above invokes the memory of a Confederate Soldier who was "proud and brave", who fought for something he believed in (he took a rebel stand).
But I guess your interest in this topic is a bit to "surface" and "Trump focused" to understand that. The core of the question really is: what did it really mean to "take a rebel stand". To folks like Ike, and probably you, it ONLY means racism apparently.
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Shelby Foote, an unrepentant Lost Causer, summed it up up best in Burns' The Civil War as to why the common man volunteered to fight for their side in the Civil War. Billy Yank was fighting to preserve the Union and Johnny Reb was fighting because "you (Billy Yank) are here."
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08-17-2017, 09:11 AM
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Nope. It was written by members of the Band, primarily Robbie Robertson.
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Should've pulled it out and looked at the back cover.
Truth be told, it was a setup for what remains of my post.
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08-17-2017, 09:31 AM
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And now black Americans are treated just fine by white Americans all across the fruited plain, from sea to shining sea. You ridiculous nazi pig.
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Ike, if you think blacks are treated anything like the way they were when I was kid you are either a kid, or an idiot, or both.
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08-17-2017, 09:31 AM
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I'll still shoot any Yankee who tries to burn my copy. 
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