Nuclear Power Needs To Go

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Yep, we need to rid ourselves of over 50% of our generation capacity tout de suite.

Do you reject the idea that we need to get rid of them at all?

[sheltiedave]

Hook your house up to solar, wind, or spend $20k for the solid geothermal heat/cool cycle that actually works. Just don't get the batteries you need for the solar because lead, cadmium, and lithium are as bad for the environment as anything.

We need to develop a base of 50% of our base power from nuclear , with effective regulations, and go from there. We have to be masters of our energy future, and this platform is readily attainable in a decade. As Rob pointed out, the Candus are a fairly effective platform with natural fuel.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Hook your house up to solar, wind, or spend $20k for the solid geothermal heat/cool cycle that actually works. Just don't get the batteries you need for the solar because lead, cadmium, and lithium are as bad for the environment as anything.

We need to develop a base of 50% of our base power from nuclear , with effective regulations, and go from there. We have to be masters of our energy future, and this platform is readily attainable in a decade. As Rob pointed out, the Candus are a fairly effective platform with natural fuel.

town told me no to wind

You need two acres of empty land to get an OK....

[sheltiedave]

The fact is all energy consumption has major health and environmental consequences. We need to be open and truthful, which has not been the case for the past century.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Hook your house up to solar, wind, or spend $20k for the solid geothermal heat/cool cycle that actually works. Just don't get the batteries you need for the solar because lead, cadmium, and lithium are as bad for the environment as anything.

We need to develop a base of 50% of our base power from nuclear , with effective regulations, and go from there. We have to be masters of our energy future, and this platform is readily attainable in a decade. As Rob pointed out, the Candus are a fairly effective platform with natural fuel.

There is no safe way to operate a nuke and no way to safely store the waste. You will disagree but history proves my point.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

The fact is all energy consumption has major health and environmental consequences. We need to be open and truthful, which has not been the case for the past century.

Nothing approaches the risks inherent in nuclear. From waste disposal to accident to decommissioned nukes, nuclear power presents unacceptable long-term health and environmental risks.

[Oerets]

We know the dangers and the solutions, just don't want to pay the costs. With the systems in use now the actual costs are hidden or passed along to the next generations. The human species as a whole have always been one who used up then moved on to the next unspoiled place. With environmental genocide ever increasing and no new planet in sight. Some tough times and decisions are ahead.

Yes the industries know full well what they are doing with little fear of recourse. Just be glad there some regulations, think how bad it would be without them.

Rob, keep up the good fight. You are not only trying to get some justice for Florence but also for those still suffering today and tomorrow.

Barney

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Do you reject the idea that we need to get rid of them at all?

As I think I've said before on this board, your stance reminds me of a joke that was made about the German Green Party when they were getting started in the early '80's. Roughly translated it said "The Greens get their electrical power directly from the wall receptacle," as if to say that their self-righteousness alone somehow ensured that their power was spontaneously and cleanly generated at the receptacle.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by finnbow

As I think I've said before on this board, your stance reminds me of a joke that was made about the German Green Party when they were getting started in the early '80's. Roughly translated it said "The Greens get their electrical power directly from the wall receptacle," as if to say that their self-righteousness alone somehow ensured that their power was spontaneously and cleanly generated at the receptacle.

Now that the Germans say they will terminate all Nuke stations since Fukushima they are going to buy a lot of natural gas from Putin, or need a heck of a lot of coal.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

As I think I've said before on this board, your stance reminds me of a joke that was made about the German Green Party when they were getting started in the early '80's. Roughly translated it said "The Greens get their electrical power directly from the wall receptacle," as if to say that their self-righteousness alone somehow ensured that their power was spontaneously and cleanly generated at the receptacle.

No, I don't recall your saying that before but the superciliousness and dismissiveness is about what I'd expect from a retired engineer.