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07-15-2016, 09:45 AM
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It's a violation of norms, but it's no crime.
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A gross violation, especially since the criticism was so poignantly personal.
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07-15-2016, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
I am serious!
The main point is the lady openly engaged in ad hominem against a major political figure. Whether he is the real head or a figure head or a pig head is not germane.
She entered gutter politics.
And please note head was "head". So so post is a non starter.
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I suspect that it is not what she said that bothers the Trumpers, but that it is true! Here is Orin Hatch:
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Sen. Orrin Hatch, the senior member of the Judiciary Committee and longest-serving GOP senator, said: "Those comments were inappropriate. On the other hand, she's reached a point in her life that she ought to say whatever she wants to."
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Granted he has the Utah/Mormon/Romney anti-Trump connection bias but even so his comment rings true. For all we know, Justice Ginsberg really wants to see President Hillary in the WH (like the SCOTUS selected Dubya back in 2000), and if so, WTF. Par for the course and the more your side keeps harping on it, this helps Hillary with the women vote even more so. Besides shouldn't you be worried about the Pence selection?
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07-15-2016, 09:55 AM
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She admitted she was wrong in exhibiting her political bias as a SC Justice.
But, she did not retract her statement.
Because she was right about that.
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07-15-2016, 09:57 AM
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I dunno, calling out an obvious asshole isn't necessarily partisanship.
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Are you sure "Asshole" isn't a political party? They sure seem to be coalescing into one.
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07-15-2016, 10:03 AM
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A gross violation, especially since the criticism was so poignantly personal. 
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Here's all the 'poignantly personal' stuff. Read it and try not to cry:
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Interview July 7, 2016 with Associated Press
Asked what if Trump won the presidency, Ginsburg said: "I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs."
Interview July 8, 2016 with New York Times
"I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.
Referring to something she thought her late husband, tax lawyer Martin Ginsburg, would have said, she said: "Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand."
Interview July 11, 2016 with CNN
"He is a faker. He has no consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head at the moment. He really has an ego. ... How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns? The press seems to be very gentle with him on that ….
"At first I thought it was funny," she said of Trump's early candidacy. "To think that there's a possibility that he could be president ….
"I think he has gotten so much free publicity ….
"Every other presidential candidate has turned over tax returns."
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Certainly improper talk, given her position. But given all the circumstances, I absolutely do not call for her resignation. Not now. Not her. Not over Trump.
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07-15-2016, 10:06 AM
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Improper, perhaps. Inaccurate, not really.
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07-15-2016, 10:20 AM
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Why Do We Pretend Supreme Court Justices Are Anything But Political Officials?
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The late Justice Antonin Scalia believed that the federal Constitution allows states to ban abortion, to prohibit consensual sex between two adults in the privacy of their home as well as same-sex marriage, to keep a prestigious state-funded military college exclusively all male, and to start official legislative sessions (and high school graduation ceremonies) with exclusively Christian prayers.
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Guess what, Supreme Court justices are people too. Justice Ginsberg should not have had to take back her comments regarding Trump who is nothing but a flim-flam man.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1302...ical-officials
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07-15-2016, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Certainly improper talk, given her position. But given all the circumstances, I absolutely do not call for her resignation. Not now. Not her. Not over Trump.
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Trump has caused you and the lady to lose the high ground.
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07-15-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Trump has caused you and the lady to lose the high ground.
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What caused Trump to shun the high ground.
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07-15-2016, 11:16 AM
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The lady plays Captain Obvious, the only high ground the hot air buffoon defends is his penthouses.
Philosophically he is a gutter huckster, anything goes to achieve a goal.
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