Breaking News: Snipers Open Fire on Police In Dallas

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I find that a little curious thought after a single gunman took out a bunch of cops.

Getting back to my original point, I suspect if all the Jews had been as well armed as your average deer hunter around here there would have been a lot less of a Holocaust.

The average deer hunter that I have known is lucky if he has 40 rounds of ammo on hand. And once that's gone, assuming a repressive regime such as the Jews were under at the time, he would have no way of getting resupplied. Game over.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I find that a little curious thought after a single gunman took out a bunch of cops.

Getting back to my original point, I suspect if all the Jews had been as well armed as your average deer hunter around here there would have been a lot less of a Holocaust.

I think your thinker is malfunctioning.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The average deer hunter that I have known is lucky if he has 40 rounds of ammo on hand. And once that's gone, assuming a repressive regime such as the Jews were under at the time, he would have no way of getting resupplied. Game over.

So, you are saying a million Jewish men with forty rounds each....

Are you crazy.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I find that a little curious thought after a single gunman took out a bunch of cops.

Getting back to my original point, I suspect if all the Jews had been as well armed as your average deer hunter around here there would have been a lot less of a Holocaust.

Then you're a bigger fool than I thought you were - and that's saying a lot.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

So, you are saying a million Jewish men with forty rounds each....

Are you crazy.

Yes, Joad is crazy but he isn't wrong. You, on the other hand, are both crazy and wrong.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

So, you are saying a million Jewish men with forty rounds each....

Are you crazy.

You're an idiot.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I find that a little curious thought after a single gunman took out a bunch of cops.

Getting back to my original point, I suspect if all the Jews had been as well armed as your average deer hunter around here there would have been a lot less of a Holocaust.

The French army had 117 divisions in WWII with 94 of them on the northeastern front, all of whom were armed at least as well as the average deer hunter. How'd that work out?

If it weren't for stupid ideas, you'd have no ideas at all.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I find that a little curious thought after a single gunman took out a bunch of cops.

Getting back to my original point, I suspect if all the Jews had been as well armed as your average deer hunter around here there would have been a lot less of a Holocaust.

That is an example of self-sacrificial offensive action. He would not have been effective in 'defending himself and his family' if that had been his goal. He would not have been able to keep the police from going his house and killing or arresting the occupants.

A small squad trained in urban tactics, with small arms and grenades, would make short work of a rifleman attempting to defend a house or apartment from a raid. Casualties on the part of a squad doing such work would be unusual. Being a deer hunter does not make one combat-experienced. Deer don't shoot back.
And even being combat-experienced doesn't fix being surprised and outnumbered.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

That is an example of self-sacrificial offensive action. He would not have been effective in 'defending himself and his family' if that had been his goal. He would not have been able to keep the police from going his house and killing or arresting the occupants.

A small squad trained in urban tactics, with small arms and grenades, would make short work of a rifleman attempting to defend a house or apartment from a raid. Casualties on the part of a squad doing such work would be unusual. Being a deer hunter does not make one combat-experienced. Deer don't shoot back.
And even being combat-experienced doesn't fix being surprised and outnumbered.

But you're forgetting the power of gun fetishist mythology, for with it, all things are possible and all argument is in vain.

[donquixote99]

If you imagine more people and more weapons making an effective defense, you are forgetting the government can and will escalate enough to overwhelm you, whatever it takes. Recall the case of MOVE in Philadelphia, whose compound was bombed by attacking police in 1985.

In 1985 a police helicopter dropped two bombs on MOVE headquarters, killing eleven MOVE members including five children. Police shot at people who tried to escape the fire. The fire caused by the police bombs destroyed 65 houses and prompted widespread news coverage

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