Always starts as a peaceful protest

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell

Sorta back on topic. Starts out "peaceful"...

http://www.freep.com/story/news/poli...test/86778244/

This goes way too far in my opinion. For the record, I'm no fan of this pipeline. However...

If these idiots want to go to the Capitol building or other government building and protest, fine. If they want to go to the office building of the pipeline operators and protest, fine. But going to the AG's house and protesting goes a bit far. Going on the property and banging on the door and windows is beyond the pale.

In this case, the AG was out of state on gov't business. His wife was apparently the only one home at the time, and she was scared shitless by these ass holes.

If I were traveling and some jack asses showed up at my house, came onto my property and purposefully scared the hell out of my wife and/or kids, the SOB's would be sorry they were ever born when I got back home.

Sadly, nothing new.
Another underhanded tactic is publishing home addresses.

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[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I want a Bofors twin 40mm mounted in the back of my Ford Ranger.

That may work if you mount the Ranger on the back of a flatbed semi....

BTW, if they start firing I wouldn't want to be where the guy on the left is.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Sadly, nothing new.
Another underhanded tactic is publishing home addresses.

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The Earth First! crew has a long tradition of eco-terrorism. The house siege is a rotten tactic and the cops should have arrested the whole bunch.

[Pio1980]

Radical activists of many types make life miserable for others, just cross the NRA for instance and the crazies go nuts with no restraint. Extremists stay true to form.

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[sheltiedave]

and this is why things are never going to change...we can't even change positions on an internet forum one iota. It is always one side is totally right, so there need be no change whatsoever...as the body count inexorably rises on both sides.

More deaths. More reactions. More people clamoring to call BLM a terrorist group(WTF). More cops killed. More guns made and sold. More concealed carries. Rinse and repeat.

[whell]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

and this is why things are never going to change...we can't even change positions on an internet forum one iota. It is always one side is totally right, so there need be no change whatsoever...as the body count inexorably rises on both sides.

More deaths. More reactions. More people clamoring to call BLM a terrorist group(WTF). More cops killed. More guns made and sold. More concealed carries. Rinse and repeat.

No one is saying "one side is totally right". But this certainly isn't "right":

http://www.twincities.com/2016/07/09...hurch-service/

From a truck parked in the eastbound lanes, protest organizers chanted slogans, spoke of racial injustice and urged the crowd to remain peaceful. The group mostly complied early on, but later into the night, police were targeted with rocks, fireworks and construction rebar taken from the roadway.

Scores of white demonstrators stood side-by-side at the perimeter of the crowd to protect others from arrest. Many were taken into custody.

Peaceful protesting can be effective, but this is absolutely couterproductive.

[whell]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

and this is why things are never going to change...we can't even change positions on an internet forum one iota. It is always one side is totally right, so there need be no change whatsoever...as the body count inexorably rises on both sides.

More deaths. More reactions. More people clamoring to call BLM a terrorist group(WTF). More cops killed. More guns made and sold. More concealed carries. Rinse and repeat.

Oh, and elevated, overheated rheroric really does corrupt political discourse doen't it? Wasn't that long ago that the Tea Party was being accused of all kinds of crazy stuff, including being a terrorist group. Of course, no Tea Party rally ever resulted in the kind of mayhem that the BLM rallies or even the Occupt Wall Street bunch have caused.

[donquixote99]

Going 'na na they did it too' doesn't actually refute anything dave said, does it?

You are the poster boy for 'we can't even change positions on an internet forum one iota.' I don't recall you ever even slightly acknowledging that an 'opponent' has anything of a point. You never drop the keyboard warrior persona in the topics--though you are of course capable of doing so, as you did in the recent discussion of moderation here.

[icenine]

Have you noticed when a black person does a massacre the right wing has no hesitation in immediately politicizing the event (Hillary and Obama did it!) but when the white people shoot up a church or movie theater all the politicians on Wayne's gravy train shout "Don't Politicize" this tragedy. Pavlovian response to the hint of any sort of gun legislation.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by whell

No one is saying "one side is totally right". But this certainly isn't "right":

http://www.twincities.com/2016/07/09...hurch-service/

From a truck parked in the eastbound lanes, protest organizers chanted slogans, spoke of racial injustice and urged the crowd to remain peaceful. The group mostly complied early on, but later into the night, police were targeted with rocks, fireworks and construction rebar taken from the roadway.

Scores of white demonstrators stood side-by-side at the perimeter of the crowd to protect others from arrest. Many were taken into custody.

Peaceful protesting can be effective, but this is absolutely couterproductive.

Police use intimidation and violence to get their point across, it's what they understand. No change will be made until the police "understand" that they need to change how they police.

God knows we certainly cannot count on politicians to do their job; managing our police forces.