Hillary For President

[Dondilion]

What I cannot comprehend is how in the world does some one become enthusiastic for Hillary?

I can understanding voting for her from a pragmatic point of view.

But enthusiasm?

[HarmanKardon]

Are there actually reasonable intelligent people who become enthusiastic for her? I can't believe that, Don.

[ZeroJunk]

It's about like being enthusiastic for Trump. But, I can see eight more years of blaming the slowly collapsing economy on Bush.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

It's about like being enthusiastic for Trump. But, I can see eight more years of blaming the slowly collapsing economy on Bush.

Is the economy slowly collapsing?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Are there actually reasonable intelligent people who become enthusiastic for her? I can't believe that, Don.

Do I strike you as unreasonable or unintelligent? Remember I am the only one here who has finished In Search Of Lost Time by Marcel Proust.

Gymnasium types want Hillary...the Hauptschulers want Trump.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Is the economy slowly collapsing?

It has been for decades as far real income goes.

The price for most everything compared to the money most people can make has been running away from us for a long time.

As long as you borrow 40 cents on every dollar you spend, devalue the currency and keep the interest rates artificially low so that the debt does not bankrupt us I don't see what is going to turn it around.

Hillary making speeches about what else she is going to give away doesn't seem to be a reasonable approach.

It is not just the U.S. by any stretch either.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by icenine

Do I strike you as unreasonable or unintelligent? Remember I am the only one here who has finished In Search Of Lost Time by Marcel Proust.

Geeze!

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

It has been for decades as far real income goes.

The price for most everything compared to the money most people can make has been running away from us for a long time.

As long as you borrow 40 cents on every dollar you spend, devalue the currency and keep the interest rates artificially low so that the debt does not bankrupt us I don't see what is going to turn it around.

Hillary making speeches about what else she is going to give away doesn't seem to be a reasonable approach.

It is not just the U.S. by any stretch either.

My emphasis here is on collapse. So long as the world view US as a safe haven, There is no collapsing.

Remember the BRICS. Even the Chinese have faith in our system.

The US controls the important monetary/trade world institutions and can make adjustments to favor itself from any ill wind.

Plus it has powerful organs to destabilize and or control any entity which threatens its hegemony.

Debt is manageable and the availability of credit turns the industrial wheels.
It is a US paradigm which is sustained by the world view that in the US the individual is supreme.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

My emphasis here is on collapse. So long as the world view US as a safe haven, There is no collapsing.

Remember the BRICS. Even the Chinese have faith in our system.

The US controls the important monetary/trade world institutions and can make adjustments to favor itself from any ill wind.

Plus it has powerful organs to destabilize and or control any entity which threatens its hegemony.

Debt is manageable and the availability of credit turns the industrial wheels.
It is a US paradigm which is sustained by the world view that in the US the individual is supreme.

I worry about the long term sustainability of the debt. Logic would indicate that you can't spend 40% more than you take in forever.

What has happened to much of your buying power is the growth of all levels of government and all the ways they have come up with to take money from you to fund it.


I think there is a feeling of restlessness in the country where people feel things are going wrong even if they can't exactly put their finger on what it is or how to fix it.

That's how you end up with Trump.

[Rajoo]

Increase taxes to pay off the debt. After all Dubya's tax cuts were paid for with borrowed money not to mention the Iraq invasion.