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05-26-2016, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPots
I still see it as a (if you'll pardon the term) witch hunt. Benghazi...e-mail shit ...does not weigh into my opinion of Hillary.
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I have to admit, neither one of those are a big deal for me either.
However, at this stage of the game, if it can knock Hillary out of the running so Bernie can get the nomination, I'll take the win, even if it is a cheap way to get it.
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05-26-2016, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by catswiththum
Hillary is just the latest addition to the steady erosion of Americans' trust in those with the duty to govern.
Beginning with Nixon and steadily on (mass media has made transgressions available to most of the public), it has been a progressive rap sheet of dodging the rules.
Personal soap operas aside, if we have become inoculated over time to the stream of offences and have decided they don't really matter and are just witch hunts by the "other side" and no longer believe it reasonable those with the duty to make the rules should be held to the highest standard of following them, we should not complain any longer about "criminals in office." We elect them, so it must be OK.
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I understand your point. We have a system in place where bribery (lobbyists and campaign donations) buy laws (by the thousands) to suit their own political and business needs, regardless of whether the rules and laws are needed. Take these bathroom and voter laws...really? Rules might be more respected if they had meaning other than political payback or corporate protection and gain.
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05-26-2016, 09:08 AM
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Although a bit more optimistic, HuffPost Pollster shows Clinton only up by 1.6 points over Trump. On April 15, 2016 Hillary Clinton was up by around 10 points, and on June 24th of last year, Trump trailed Clinton by about 20 points. The big issue with Clinton is that she doesn’t keep polling leads, and Election Day is over five months away.
In contrast, HuffPost Pollst]er shows Bernie Sanders defeating Trump in a general election by 10.2 points.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-go..._10102664.html
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05-26-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
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The Hillarybots don't care.
They are so blinded by their "First Woman President" obsession that they are going to nominate a candidate with zero integrity, zero charisma, and a shitload of baggage.
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05-26-2016, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
The Hillarybots don't care.
They are so blinded by their "First Woman President" obsession that they are going to nominate a candidate with zero integrity, zero charisma, and a shitload of baggage.
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I think that supporters of Trump, Bernie and Hillary are all obsessed in some fashion or another.
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05-26-2016, 01:09 PM
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If Bernie's supporters are obsessed, it is with the DNC rigging the primaries for Hillary from the very beginning. If Hillary were to win on an even playing field, I am certain it would be acceptable to almost all of Bernie's supporters. But can she?
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The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. Thomas Jefferson
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05-26-2016, 03:32 PM
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Every single election is rigged according to those whose favorite candidate is on the losing end. 😏
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05-26-2016, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
If Hillary were to win on an even playing field, I am certain it would be acceptable to almost all of Bernie's supporters.
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It would for me.
You can go back and check my posts from a year or so ago.
Back then I was all in for Hillary if Bernie didn't get the nomination.
But then she showed her true nature during this campaign.
She and her buddy DWS are responsible for alienating me and millions of other Bernie Sanders supporters.
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05-26-2016, 04:42 PM
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This is going to be the oddest election in my lifetime. Don't remember a case where neither party liked their candidate.
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05-26-2016, 05:30 PM
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'Yes, Democrats will unify behind Clinton. This political scientist persuasively explains why.'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...mepage%2Fstory
Note: Math included. Use at your own risk.
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