Opinion New York’s primary is ‘closed shut’ by insane registration rules

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

Last I checked Bernie is an independent running on a Democratic party platform. If he was running as an independent without a party where would he be?

Check again.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Ignorance of the rules isn't a valid defense Tom. Also, anyone can vote a provisional ballot if there is some snafu in their registration.

Provisional ballots are seldom if ever counted If they were Kerry would have won in 2004, There were 186,000 provisional votes cast in Ohio and Ken Blackwell refused to count them. Kerry lost Ohio by 118,775 votes.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by icenine

Last I checked Bernie is an independent running on a Democratic party platform. If he was running as an independent without a party where would he be?

From checking your rulebook, why was not Bernie disqualfied by Debbie and DNC?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Provisional ballots are seldom if ever counted If they were Kerry would have won in 2004, There were 186,000 provisional votes cast in Ohio and Ken Blackwell refused to count them. Kerry lost Ohio by 118,775 votes.

C'mon, the New York primary isn't Ohio's general election by any stretch of the imagination.

Do you really think that party primary elections should be open to all comers because that's what Weaver is trying to force by this latest lawsuit. If that's the case, why don't we let Repubs vote in our primary, eh?

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by barbara

It seems to me...... And maybe I'm wrong.... That some folks here expect me to be a Hilary supporter because I'm female.

I like Hilary. I also like Bernie. In fact..... I support more of Bernie's ideas than Hilary's but I'm also aware that in the current political climate, Bernie won't be able to get a lot of his ideas off the ground.

What makes you so certain Hillary will be able to get anything done? I suspect there is more animosity towards Hillary by the republicans than they have towards Obama.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

They should be the same.

Forcing independents to wait until the two private clubs have narrowed the choices down to two "acceptable" candidates is indefensible.

And what you are doing is defending the indefensible because in this case it happens to serve your purposes.

I have to agree. It's bad enough the two private clubs have devised ways to keep indies out. Odd isn't it. We're a nation of some 320 million people, yet only one member of each of the TWO private clubs ever makes it to the final vote. I'd wager there are dozens of people in this country who would like to run but club rules prevent it. We're not even allowed a choice.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by MrPots

What makes you so certain Hillary will be able to get anything done? I suspect there is more animosity towards Hillary by the republicans than they have towards Obama.

Good point.
On the other hand, she has a vast amount of experience when it comes to animosity from republicans....

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by bobabode

C'mon, the New York primary isn't Ohio's general election by any stretch of the imagination.

Do you really think that party primary elections should be open to all comers because that's what Weaver is trying to force by this latest lawsuit. If that's the case, why don't we let Repubs vote in our primary, eh?

I think everyone should get one vote.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by barbara

Good point.
On the other hand, she has a vast amount of experience when it comes to animosity from republicans....

I'll grant you that.......

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

C'mon, the New York primary isn't Ohio's general election by any stretch of the imagination.

Do you really think that party primary elections should be open to all comers because that's what Weaver is trying to force by this latest lawsuit. If that's the case, why don't we let Repubs vote in our primary, eh?

You're damn right. Closed or semi-closed primaries are an infringement of what should be (but isn't) an affirmative right of citizenship fro all Americans as it is for women and African-Americans.