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03-28-2016, 05:39 PM
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If worst comes to worst, you could always sell the swag on eBay.
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I'm gonna have my nipples pierced and wear those HRC buttons to her inauguration.
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03-28-2016, 06:19 PM
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Stick a couple of pins in him, he's done....
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03-28-2016, 06:26 PM
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Stick a couple of pins in him, he's done.... 
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How about a neck tat?
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03-28-2016, 06:50 PM
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16 years ago I voted for McCain in the primaries. McCain was a pretty reasonable dude back then. He was trying to be an Eisenhower Republican and if you remember his number one issue was campaign finance reform. But the Republicans rejected him and chose to lurch to the right and nominate that corporate toadie Bush. That's when I unassed the Republicans for good.
Now 16 years later we have Bernie Sanders also running on getting the big money out of politics and the corporate democrats doing everything they can to crush him and force another corporate toadie on us. So for me it's Deja vous all over again, this time with the Democrats. If they don't nominate Bernie, I'm done with them too.
I am not going to vote for someone who does not represent what I believe in. If Bernie isn't the nominee I'll go with the green party candidate.
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At least you aren't going to vote for Trump.
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03-28-2016, 06:56 PM
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If Bernie isn't the nominee I'll go with the green party candidate.
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What is it about Jill Stein that you like? She's apparently running unopposed.
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03-28-2016, 07:12 PM
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What is it about Jill Stein that you like? She's apparently running unopposed.
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My #1 issue is Heath Care.
Her position is essentially the same as Bernie.
http://www.jill2016.com/plan
In fact the Green Party is an excellent Plan B option for Sanders supporters if he doesn't get the Democratic nomination.
Here are three areas where I agree with them almost 100%. The only one I take a slight issue with is the $15 federal minimum wage. I think Clinton's $12 minimum is more reasonable. High cost of living area's could always go with a higher figure, but $12 makes more sense to me for a federal minimum.
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Health Care as a Right:
Establish an improved “Medicare For All” single-payer public health insurance program to provide everyone with quality health care, at huge savings.
Education as a Right:
Abolish student debt to free a generation of Americans from debt servitude. Guarantee tuition-free, world-class public education from pre-school through university. End high stakes testing and public school privatization.
A Just Economy:
Set a $15/hour federal minimum wage. Break up “too-big-to-fail” banks and democratize the Federal Reserve. Reject gentrification as a model of economic development. Support development of worker and community cooperatives and small businesses. Make Wall Street, big corporations, and the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Create democratically run public banks and utilities. Replace corporate trade agreements with fair trade agreements.
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03-28-2016, 07:15 PM
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At least you aren't going to vote for Trump.
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No, but if enough of us Sanders supporters vote Green to throw the election to Trump, I'm OK with that.
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03-28-2016, 07:34 PM
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No, but if enough of us Sanders supporters vote Green to throw the election to Trump, I'm OK with that.
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I cannot agree with this, a Trump Presidency would be a disaster.
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03-28-2016, 07:40 PM
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I cannot agree with this, a Trump Presidency would be a disaster.
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Maybe that's what we need to get people up off their asses.
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03-28-2016, 08:12 PM
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I cannot agree with this, a Trump Presidency would be a disaster.
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The republicans didn't learn their lesson with Bush the dumber. Round two.
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