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02-16-2016, 11:18 AM
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Political Correctness; A question........
I have a question for the group;
As I recall, when "political correctness" first appeared in the 1980-90s, it was basically seen as an attempt to silence opposition on clearly political issues, by the left. However, it appears to me that somewhere along the line, it has been turned by the right to silence any opposition from the left. Case in point;
In 1992, a person cries "racism". Someone expresses that they don't believe this situation is, in fact, racism. The left responds; "Ooooh, you can't say that!" before any facts are gathered and examined.
Fast forward;
In 2016, a person cries "racism". The right has a fit and shouts down the claim, before any facts are gathered and examined.
Now, who is being "PC"?
Moreover; How do you make the distinction between that which is a matter of political correctness and that which is a simple matter of common decency?
Our world seems to have filled up with idiots who find any objection to their ignorant statements and abhorrent behavior to be "political correctness".
Thoughts anyone?
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02-16-2016, 11:31 AM
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My take is that in 2016 the term means that Trump can probably get away with the "N" word if he wanted too because he is not politically correct. That is why his followers love him...he can say things they believe deep down inside.
That is how I see the term in 2016.
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02-16-2016, 11:33 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, nothing is correct about politics anymore.
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02-16-2016, 11:44 AM
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I recall a time when it was acceptable to use a racial epithet in public. If political correctness changed that, it did a good thing.
I recall when it was acceptable to rely or racial or gender-based stereotypes to make a point. If political correctness has changed that, it did a good thing.
If political correctness prevents us from recognizing differences between cultures and recognizing that some things from other cultures are inconsistent with our values, I have issues with it.
The reaction from the right, that any identification of racism is racism in itself, is ridiculous.
However, the apparent assertion on the left that all opposition to President Obama is based on his race makes it easier for the right to reject all claims of racism.
I do believe that those who are members of a minority race are capable of racism in their own right. Identifying behavior of the part of others that is racially biased is not, however, evidence of such racism.
Anyone who believes that racism does not exist in America should hop on his unicorn and take a ride to Fantasyland.
Regards,
D-Ray
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02-16-2016, 11:51 AM
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02-16-2016, 12:09 PM
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Being politically correct (which is also being socially correct) is to avoid expressing one's thoughts and feelings bluntly. This is usually done to avoid a social or economic backlash, but the feelings themselves have not changed. With the advent of social media, one can now express their feelings without fear of any retribution so long as we are politically correct in public.
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02-16-2016, 01:04 PM
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Political correctness is the technique of saying the unacceptable in acceptable terms. That's why I posted the Atwater quote.
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02-16-2016, 03:10 PM
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What's politically correct depends on which side of the aisle one resides. It's also different things to different people, just like happiness.
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02-16-2016, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeamOn
Being politically correct (which is also being socially correct) is to avoid expressing one's thoughts and feelings bluntly.
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Usually governed by a fear of being hammered by the public for such expressions.
Trump has no such inhibition and therefore in today talk ... He is not PC.
Words evolve.
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02-16-2016, 04:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
Usually governed by a fear of being hammered by the public for such expressions.
Trump has no such inhibition and therefore in today talk ... He is not PC.
Words evolve.
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Fear is a key in obtaining, expanding and maintaining power.
Trump's perceives that he has nothing to fear from the PCers. I think he's correct.
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