Roseburg, Oregon School Shooting

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I like the idea of issuing permits that are recognized nationwide and requiring those permits for anyone in possession of a firearm.

The permitting process in Florida is pretty intense. I would use that as a model for the country. Yet gunowners line up to get them. Because they want the legal legitimacy they provide.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...t-gun-permits/

That "intense" process gave us George Zimmerman.

Anyway, you'll NEVER get the "patriots" to agree to any permitting process controlled by ZOG.

[Boreas]

The problem with concealed carry permits is that the only people who have one want one.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Tom, all I see in this is a willingness on your part to accept a greater and greater degree of gun violence in this country in exchange for the illusion of safety you derive from being at all times strapped. I think it's both selfish and deluded.

I think we would have much less gun violence if we issued more permits to law abiding citizens.

Oh, and by the way, I very seldom go heeled myself.

[mpholland]

I think we would have much less gun violence if...who am I kidding? I don't think we will have much less gun violence in my lifetime.

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by barbara

More guns = more gun violence.

There just isn't any way to dispute that when looking at legitimate and verifiable data.

Guns = Violence.

The sheer number of guns in the United States (more than 3000000 rifles) is the problem. Guns are available everywhere, everytime, for everybody.

In my opinion from my other-side-of-the-big-pond-point-of-view this is the basic problem, a problem which will never be solved. We have to live with this problem, we will have to get used to it. This is a very depressing fact.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The problem with concealed carry permits is that the only people who have one want one.

The crime rate for Concealed Carry Permit holders is much much lower than it is for the general population.

Now, to clarify, while I am in favor of issuing permits, I am very much against the proliferation of these stupid assed stand your ground laws. They are nothing more than a license to escalate.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The crime rate for Concealed Carry Permit holders is much much lower than it is for the general population.

Now, to clarify, while I am in favor of issuing permits, I am very much against the proliferation of these stupid assed stand your ground laws. They are nothing more than a license to escalate.

Maybe we should change from concealed carry permits to competency permits?

[catswiththum]

I can not remember - in my town, in this country - ever thinking like I do now, having elevated levels of suspicion and feeling like I have to have eyes in the back of my head.

I do not want to live where I have to carry a gun all the time.

My wife is a college professor - everyone is shooting up universities - yes, I'm feeling great these days.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by mpholland

Maybe we should change from concealed carry permits to competency permits?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...n-control.html

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[barbara]

Too often I hear that there is no way we can control gun ownership in our country.

I just don't think that is true.

We could if we wanted to.
We could if lobbyists like the NRA didn't have politicians by the b@lls.