Religious Freedom Bill in Indiana.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by nailer

Is this negative reaction to our more pluralistic culture all that surprising. I think progressive liberals were expecting people to change almost as easily as it was to implement the Great American Society and they're upset about it not working out. There's a fight coming because both sides of this blue/red divide are itching for one. When that fight is over most of the country will accept the reality of a four, not three, basic class structure: upper, middle, working and lower. Do the larger working and lower classes have the wherewithal to form there own party in order that their, and not the propertied class, interests hold the high ground?

Quite a bit of libertarian sophistry in there Bob.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by nailer

Is this negative reaction to our more pluralistic culture all that surprising.

Of course it's not surprising. I expect a country full of ignoramuses: who believe that dinosaurs and humans lived together on the planet, who believe that immunizations give children autism, who believe that evolution is a myth, who believe Barack Obama is a muslim...and a carload of other stupid shit, to have a negative reaction to our increasingly pluralistic culture.

Originally Posted by nailer

I think progressive liberals were expecting people to change almost as easily as it was to implement the Great American Society and they're upset about it not working out. There's a fight coming because both sides of this blue/red divide are itching for one. When that fight is over most of the country will accept the reality of a four, not three, basic class structure: upper, middle, working and lower. Do the larger working and lower classes have the wherewithal to form there own party in order that their, and not the propertied class, interests hold the high ground?

Well...you think wrong. Most liberals believe that the American electorate will forever remain the most ridiculous herd of dumbfuckers of all 1st world countries on the planet. Then again, I'm probably giving liberals way too much credit. Anyway, when the nation was founded on the most utterly sick and wrong combination of philosophies imaginable, puritanism and utopianism, we were screwed right out of the gate.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Citing input from Walmart (Head office in Arkansas) LBGT members and his son, Governor Hutchinson said he would veto the bill.

And this is proof enough of what an idiot Mike Pence is after receiving:

March 30, 2015

Honorable Mike Pence

Governor of Indiana State House Room 206 Indianapolis, Indiana 46204-2797

Dear Governor Pence: Regardless of the original intention of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, we are deeply concerned about the impact it is having on our employees and on the reputation of our state. All of our companies seek to promote fair, diverse and inclusive workplaces. Our employees must not feel unwelcome in the place where they work and live.

As we seek to attract and retain great talent from Indiana and around the world, it is critical that we make it clear that Indiana is the welcoming state we all believe it to be. As leaders in the Indiana business community, we call on you to take immediate action to ensure that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act will not sanction or encourage discrimination against any residents or visitors to our state by anyone.

By immediately enacting new legislation that makes it clear that neither the Religious Freedom Restoration Act nor any other Indiana law can be used to justify discrimination based upon sexual orientation or gender identity, our state’s elected leaders can provide the reassurance to the people of our state, our nation and the world that is needed at this critical moment.

Sincerely,

William S. Oesterle Chief Executive Officer Angie’s List, Inc.
Joseph R. Swedish President and CEO Anthem , Inc.
Tom Linebarger Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Cummins Inc.
Tim Hassinger President and CEO Dow AgroSciences
John C. Lechleiter Chairman, President, and CEO Eli Lilly and Company
Jeffrey H. Smulyan Chairman, President and CEO Emmis Communications Corporation
Daniel F. Evans President and Chief Executive Officer Indiana University Health

The important language in this letter is "sanction or encourage discrimination", since Pence has continuously denied that it sanctions discrimination, but refuses to address the issue of the encouragement of anti-gay behavior which he knows good and goddamn well that it will.

[Boreas]

This is just another example of the overall willingness of Republican politicians to inflict harm on their state or country and on the people they're sworn to serve in exchange for political advantage.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

This is just another example of the overall willingness of Republican politicians to inflict harm on their state or country and on the people they're sworn to serve in exchange for political advantage.

There is a political advantage to admitting that you are a barking idiot? Who knew.

[donquixote99]

You get solid support from the barking idiot voters.

[CarlV]

Memories Pizza on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Memor...10391918999261

Memories Pizza on Yelp:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/memories-piz...rton?start=120


Hmmmm:

Memories Pizza -- the first Indiana business to declare it would refuse LGBT business -- got blasted on the Internet and by phone, but the owner says there's been a huge misunderstanding ... sorta.

Kevin O’Connor tells TMZ he's had to temporarily close his business after he told a reporter he would refuse to cater a gay wedding under Indiana's new Religious Freedom Restoration Act. O'Connor says he was immediately flooded by threatening phone calls, and social media postings.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/01/memori...#ixzz3WACKgpK8








Carl

[nailer]

What's going on, and will be for a while, is a lost cause rear guard action. These people have a right to their beliefs and this friction will remain regardless of our laws.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by CarlV

Memories Pizza on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Memor...10391918999261

Memories Pizza on Yelp:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/memories-piz...rton?start=120


Hmmmm:

Memories Pizza -- the first Indiana business to declare it would refuse LGBT business -- got blasted on the Internet and by phone, but the owner says there's been a huge misunderstanding ... sorta.

Kevin O’Connor tells TMZ he's had to temporarily close his business after he told a reporter he would refuse to cater a gay wedding under Indiana's new Religious Freedom Restoration Act. O'Connor says he was immediately flooded by threatening phone calls, and social media postings.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/01/memori...#ixzz3WACKgpK8








Carl

If true, that's not cool at all. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if these were rightwing trolls stirring the pot by threatening harm to this pizza joint on Yelp. I hope the FBI gets to the bottom of this.
Who orders pizza for a wedding anyways.

[CarlV]

Maybe they can get together for a game of bridge, picket Planned Parenthood or something.

http://www.111cakery.com/

I just love the holier than thou types.


Carl