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01-14-2015, 11:52 AM
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Nope, my post was in response to Boreas' weak support for what Ike called him. Ike is capable of defending himself.
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Much obliged. I thought so as well. I've had a long time to get used to the fact that when it comes to getting a reaction out of "progressives" nothing gets them frothing like a lefty who supports the State of Israel doing what it needs to in order to defend itself against (OK what the hell, I'll say it) it's Jew-hating terrorist neighbors.
Nothing a con can say or do will get them oscillating quite so violently.
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01-14-2015, 11:55 AM
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You've conveniently left the second sentence of my second paragraph out of your quote.
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Okay, so what makes DQ's question "stupid" unless you assumed him to be speaking of physical violence?
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You also seem unable to make up your mind about what it is Ike called you, you deflector you.
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Ike's meaning is clear to any objective reader.
What's your brief here? Are you defending Ike or merely attacking me? In either case, you're doing a piss poor job.
John
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01-14-2015, 12:03 PM
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Your lack of knowledge is showing: at least the prior school was accredited.
Point being? If you can find me a college grad, after six years, from those scholarships? I'll buy that kid a nice dinner, happily.
But I'm not holding my breath.
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Zeke, Normandy is the Taj Mahal compared to wWellston. WWellston was forced to fold by the state. Normandy was taken over by the state. Huge difference.
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01-14-2015, 12:12 PM
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Zeke, Normandy is the Taj Mahal compared to wWellston. WWellston was forced to fold by the state. Normandy was taken over by the state. Huge difference.
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Not in there success rates, if actual graduation matters.
But here's the rub: I'll concede which school is/was crappier.
All it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$.
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01-14-2015, 12:19 PM
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All it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$.
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That wasn't your point. Your point was that these scholarship kids were more likely to get an arrest record than a diploma. That's a pretty fucking rotten thing to say about anyone.
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01-14-2015, 12:21 PM
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That wasn't your point. Your point was that these scholarship kids were more likely to get an arrest record than a diploma. That's a pretty fucking rotten thing to say about anyone.
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And it's statistically accurate.
Hence, "all it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$."
If you don't like how the math works out, don't blame the math.
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01-14-2015, 12:29 PM
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Zeke, there are zero statistics about how many of these scholarship students have failed to graduate once in this program. However, a similar scholarship program at lincohn University has a 100% graduation rate down in Jefferson city for the past 27 years.
But we will defer you your supreme and omniscient presence... All bow before Zeke.
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01-14-2015, 12:31 PM
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Zeke, there are zero statistics about how many of these scholarship students have failed to graduate once in this program.
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True.
There's just the national statistics on first time college students that are male, minority, on Minority Incentive scholarships, their acceptance at private institutions and the -- ahem -- "preparation" offered in Normandy schools.
Sum?
Things can be extrapolated with relative ease.
You've got six years to find me an actual graduate...
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01-14-2015, 12:34 PM
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That wasn't your point. Your point was that these scholarship kids were more likely to get an arrest record than a diploma. That's a pretty fucking rotten thing to say about anyone.
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Like he gives a shit. His malevolence knows no bounds.
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01-14-2015, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
And it's statistically accurate.
Hence, "all it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$."
If you don't like how the math works out, don't blame the math.
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Show me a statistic that claims that , among students who sought and obtained scholarships to 4-year colleges, more ended up with criminal records than degrees.
Or were you just talking about black kids? Okay, show me those stats.
John
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