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12-27-2014, 01:41 PM
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So based on a legal beagle assessment, BEFORE Brown and Wilson mixed things up, Brown had committed two chargeable MISDEMEANORS
Third Degree Misdemeanor Assault
Class D Misdemeanor Theft
Some people need to put some air back in their presumptions...they just went flat.
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And most charges like that end up getting reduced even further.
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12-27-2014, 01:55 PM
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Tom, I talked to the shop owner and clerks. While they don't like being pushed around or being nicked by petty theft, they are also cognizant that they are surrounded by the Section 8 high rise projects, and so they have some leeway and are generally averse to pressing charges if someone does what Brown's grandma did, and offer to pay for the theft.
The quick stores that press charges against everyone go out of business real fast on West Florissant.
In many of these communities, Grandma/Grandpa/Mom carry far more weight than the cops or judicial system. The worst possible thing a kid can do in many situations is to piss off Grandma.
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12-27-2014, 02:09 PM
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Since Finnbow is very much wrapped up in complicit felonious activity, I decided I would research Wilson's complicit felonious activity. Lo and behold, it only took ten seconds to find it. What a surprise.
Much of his high school wardrobe, and most of his hockey gear he used, was purchased by his mom in various felony theft and identity theft scams she perpetuated from a neighbor and close friend.
Read about here... and all he had to do was pick up the phone and call the police. But he didn't, even as he knew that his mother could not afford the tens of thousands of dollars she spent on herself, the house, and his stuff.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us...ting.html?_r=0
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12-27-2014, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
Since Finnbow is very much wrapped up in complicit felonious activity, I decided I would research Wilson's complicit felonious activity. Lo and behold, it only took ten seconds to find it. What a surprise.
Much of his high school wardrobe, and most of his hockey gear he used, was purchased by his mom in various felony theft and identity theft scams she perpetuated from a neighbor and close friend.
Read about here... and all he had to do was pick up the phone and call the police. But he didn't, even as he knew that his mother could not afford the tens of thousands of dollars she spent on herself, the house, and his stuff.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us...ting.html?_r=0
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Wow!
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12-27-2014, 02:26 PM
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Yea Tom, the problem with St. Louis is it really is a small town type arrangement. For many situations, you are one or two phone calls away from being able to go visit locals that know some dirt. Michael and Barbara both have quite a bit of dirt on them, so even though Finnbow may duck and squirm, they still are every bit as dirty and stupid as Brown.
There are reasons Wilson would never rise above being a Tier 2 city cop, and why St. Louis City and County PDs categorically rejected even considering hiring him. Background, training, character, references, and education, as well as his job performance, were all found lacking to contain the right stuff.
Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson Background Information Compiled From Public Records
Wilson was born May 1986 in Fort Worth, Texas. His parents are Tonya and John Wilson. His mother was a 19-year-old receptionist at a YMCA at the time of his birth and his father, 32, was a public school teacher and an athletic coach.
Darren Wilson’s parents divorced in 1989. Tonya Wilson then married Tyler Harris and move to the area of St. Louis, Missouri. The couple had a son, Jared, in 1991. During the late 90s the family moved to a home in St. Peters. The couple divorced in 1998. Darren Wilson’s mother then married Daniel Robert Durso.
Also in 1998, the Ferguson police officer’s mother was charged with three counts of stealing by deceit in St. Charles County. The woman allegedly passed bad checks at Truman Bank.
In 2000 she was also charged with forgery and stealing. Those charges stemmed from allegations that she passed a forged check for $9,000 and used another woman’s credit card. In both cases, she pleaded guilty and was ultimately sentenced to five years of probation.
In 2002 Tonya and Daniel Robert Durso reportedly faced financial struggles and filed bankruptcy in 2002. In November of the same year Darren Wilson’s mother died of blockages in both her lungs and arteries.
In 2003, Tyler Harris, the Ferguson police officer’s first step-father, filed for limited guardianship of Darren. The legal filing was reportedly conducted so the young man could register for his senior year of high school and garner medical insurance. John Wilson agreed to the limited guardianship so his son could finish attending St. Charles West High School.
In St. Charles West High School yearbook photos Darren Wilson was reportedly shown featuring a “rock star” or “surfer” look with a “mop of hair.” The Ferguson police officer was on the varsity hockey team and a member of the yearbook staff.
In 2011, Darren Wilson married Ashley Brown. The couple purchased a home in the town of Troy in Lincoln County. The home was sold a year later, several months after Wilson filed for divorce from Ashley Brown. The divorce filing was conducted four months after a separation and finalized in 2013.
In October of the same year he purchased a home in Crestwood. Darren Wilson reportedly still owns the home which he shared with his girlfriend Barbara Spradling. The girlfriend is also a Ferguson police officer.
Prior to becoming a member of the Ferguson Police Department, Darren Wilson was a member of the Jennings Police Department for two years. There are reportedly no disciplinary filings on his record. He also worked for the Pine Lawn Police Force for one day.
Last edited by sheltiedave; 12-27-2014 at 02:34 PM.
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12-27-2014, 02:33 PM
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Wow! 
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Yeah, you didn't know that? Wilson's a real solid citizen.
Add to that the business about Ferguson hiring him when the department he used to work for got disbanded for civil rights violations of the citizens they're supposed to protect. Just the sort of cop that a police force in a city that (illegally) uses the police force as a profit center.
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12-27-2014, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
Since Finnbow is very much wrapped up in complicit felonious activity, I decided I would research Wilson's complicit felonious activity. Lo and behold, it only took ten seconds to find it. What a surprise.
Much of his high school wardrobe, and most of his hockey gear he used, was purchased by his mom in various felony theft and identity theft scams she perpetuated from a neighbor and close friend.
Read about here... and all he had to do was pick up the phone and call the police. But he didn't, even as he knew that his mother could not afford the tens of thousands of dollars she spent on herself, the house, and his stuff.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us...ting.html?_r=0
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That has absolutely no bearing whatsoever upon whether he reasonably felt threatened by Brown.
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Add to that the business about Ferguson hiring him when the department he used to work for got disbanded for civil rights violations of the citizens they're supposed to protect.
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Equally irrelevant.
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Yea Tom, the problem with St. Louis is it really is a small town type arrangement. For many situations, you are one or two phone calls away from being able to go visit locals that know some dirt. Michael and Barbara both have quite a bit of dirt on them, so even though Finnbow may duck and squirm, they still are every bit as dirty and stupid as Brown.
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Also totally irrelevant. Not one of these facts or assertions matter one whit in either grand jury or trial proceedings. Like it or not, you can't pick your parents.
The red herrings are stacking up. And I was chastised for calling such stuff drivel???
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12-27-2014, 02:54 PM
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Wilson hasn't exactly had a calm relationship with his second(new) wife either. Almost got his ass kicked by her ex, did get his car kicked, and the new wife and her ex are in a very contentious custody battle over their love child.
So Wilson has a father, two ex-stepfathers, a dead mom felon, an ex-wife who hates him with a passion(whose last name is Brown,) a new wife, a legal battle over his non-kid, and a bun in the oven. And he wants to start a police training school on use of force techniques.
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12-27-2014, 03:02 PM
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That has absolutely no bearing whatsoever upon whether he reasonably felt threatened by Brown. 
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But just like Johnson, it does have a very large bearing on his character and willingness to speak the truth, even to his detriment and well being.
Johnson had a chance to halt a misdemeanor, and didn't. For that, you say we should exclude anything he says, now and forever.
Wilson had a chance to halt multiple felonies, and didn't. For that, you say we should accept all testimony from him, now and and seemingly forever.
You like to pick and choose traits to bind, and when they should be bound and when they should not be bound.
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12-27-2014, 03:05 PM
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But just like Johnson, it does have a very large bearing on his character and willingness to speak the truth, even to his detriment and well being.
Johnson had a chance to halt a misdemeanor, and didn't. For that, you say we should exclude anything he says, now and forever.
Wilson had a chance to halt multiple felonies, and didn't. For that, you say we should accept all testimony from him, now and and seemingly forever.
You like to pick and choose traits to bind, and when they should be bound and when they should not be bound.
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I hope you're really not stupid enough to believe that anything you wrote above about Wilson or his mom has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not it was reasonable for him to have felt threatened by Brown.
You're in a pretty big hole, Sheltie. Quit digging.
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