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12-24-2014, 07:24 PM
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There definitely was shooting from the back.
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Only if the bullets were traveling in reverse.
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12-24-2014, 07:29 PM
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There definitely was shooting from the back, and the arm shot is indeterminate.
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It's a little more than that. It's determinative of one of two things. Either he was hit in the ventral forearm while fleeing, away from Wilson, or he was hit while facing Wilson with his hands in the air.
Either way, Wilson is a murderer.
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12-24-2014, 07:31 PM
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It's a little more than that. It's determinative of one of two things. Either he was hit in the ventral forearm while fleeing, away from Wilson, or he was hit while facing Wilson with his hands in the air.
Either way, Wilson is a murderer.
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And in neither case are you a coroner.
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12-24-2014, 08:19 PM
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Evidence and GJ findings confirm there's nothing here but Brown receiving what he forced Wilson to do.
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12-24-2014, 10:01 PM
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There definitely was shooting from the back, and the arm shot is indeterminate.
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Add to that 1/2 of Wilson's 12 shots went wild.
This in a high density residential neighborhood.
So add "reckless endangerment of innocent bystanders" to the list of things he should be charged with.
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12-26-2014, 09:08 AM
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Zeke, being right in all measure means you can cite chapter and verse from a published book, otherwise your "entitlement" chant is bullshit. The rest of us have Google capabilities as well, and you are dragging a Trojan Horse around.
Likewise, you can't admit that Wilson chased after Brown, shooting him multiple times over the course of the almost twenty second confrontation, including two coup de graces delivered over 100 feet from his SUV squad car. Your narrative is so weak you cannot provide a single photo or video to negate our "lack of evidence." Indeed.
You are undoubtably going to be right that Wilson will get off scot free, but he will never again be a badged, gun carrying law enforcement officer, and he will need to move out of Missouri and seek to become anonymous.
His police chief will retire, and his community police force will disband, all due to his Pyrrhic and righteous display of being in control. He wins, everyone else loses. And still you gleefully pound the snare drum. All is good, the bad guys die.
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As the only one living in St. Louis, the only one who has had the opportunity to talk directly with multiple principals in the investigation and event, the only one who has talked with multiple prosecutors and municipal police members about the case, and dropper of many facts about the evidence/case, Finnbow, it is with great relish to hear you have put me at the pantheon of mindless drivel producers.
And BTW, I detect a certain element from you re. a pronounced inability to give credence to any black person in this case - Anonymous, Dorian Johnson, or any of the actual witnesses. It is striking and singular in its nature.
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12-26-2014, 09:15 AM
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And BTW, I detect a certain element from you re. a pronounced inability to give credence to any black person in this case - Anonymous, Dorian Johnson, or any of the actual witnesses. It is striking and singular in its nature.
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Anyone willing to give credence to Anonymous or Dorian Johnson has thereby shattered their own credibility (as does inferring that this was essentially a KKK execution). Also, I didn't realize that Anonymous was black.
Living near St. Louis doesn't somehow preclude you from spewing specious nonsense. You've proven that in spades.
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12-26-2014, 11:17 AM
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So Finnbow, being the font font of all knowledge, please tell us why Dorian Johnson is to be totally disregarded? And how is it that you can see things so clearly fifteen hours by car from St. Louis, when Rex and I are mystified by some of these proceedings?
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12-26-2014, 11:27 AM
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So Finnbow, being the font font of all knowledge, please tell us why Dorian Johnson is to be totally disregarded? And how is it that you can see things so clearly fifteen hours by car from St. Louis, when Rex and I are mystified by some of these proceedings?
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I never said he should be totally disregarded. From the beginning, I've said that, due to his complicity in the events of that day, his statements should treated skeptically and challenged. What's so racist about that?
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12-26-2014, 11:41 AM
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I never said he should be totally disregarded. From the beginning, I've said that, due to his complicity in the events of that day, his statements should treated skeptically and challenged. What's so racist about that?
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There's no evidence, even from Wilson, that Dorian Johnson was in any way "complicit" in the fatal interaction between Wilson and Brown. As to the robbery, there's no evidence of Johnson's complicity there either. All that can be said is that he accompanied Brown into the store and was still present when Brown stole the cigarillos.
I suppose he should have attempted a citizen's arrest, right?
John
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