Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[sheltiedave]

I never heard of Dexter, Tom, but it is pretty cool. My training came on the physics side, with nuclear reactors and their neutron management and shielding design. But the principles and theory is identical; if you understand this shit, then you can design good radiation shielding.

This is the blood science behind it, briefly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jFK...6yBJNVBROg_Jyg

That has not been done with this case, and the medical examiner/forensics photographer apparently did not take the detailed photographs and measurements of exactitude. Just another brick in the wall, eh?

With this, if it was possible, we would have decent estimates of body position, body motion, and a better picture of what went down based on empirical evidence.

[donquixote99]

I continue to think that the conflicting evidence should have been sorted in a open and truly adversarial process, that is, in a trial court.

[sheltiedave]

And Finn, I don't have a desired version of events. I have a desired knowledge of events, which has been circumvented and circumnavigated by McCulloch and his office.

These are uncomfortable questions we are raising, because we don't have clear answers. But we see no concern coming from your perspective, or your side, because you evidence none. You only run that Brown was a felon, and justly was killed in proper fashion.

Does that justify subverting the core of the investigation, the principles with which our courts operate, and exhausting the good will of the communities we police? Does a felon from the project deserve a lesser standard of procedural justice than a millionaire from Chesterfield, or Rush Limbaugh when he was stealing his maid's controlled substance painkillers?

I am hearing a resounding YES, which is wrong.

[finnbow]

Again pursue disbarment, impeachment or a forced resignation of McCullough if you don't like his work. Good luck, however, as he has been reelected 6 times since first being elected in 1991.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

No.

I make the point but you're not intellectually brave enough to see it because it absolutely will destroy pollyanna thoughts like those you profess. Here's a thought: Google "entitlement causes crime." Then, Google "entitlement does NOT cause crime."

I'm being serious.

There are, quite literally, pages of research done on the topic. Do you know what the major difference between the two searches is? Google tends to omit the word "not" because there aren't enough relevant search results containing that word. Meaning? I could deluge with citations any time I wanted to but what's the point? You refuse to live in the Real World.

Many folks who feel entitled to another's stuff will try to take it. Sometimes, they get themselves shot. Those who do not feel entitled to another person's stuff shouldn't feel remorse about harm coming to those who would try to take.

The bigger question is why some people believe they are entitled to a bauble, treatment, manner of living, etc. and do NOT try to shortcut obtain it. Personally, I believe it's because they've had a single person in their life -- just one -- who said, "that's not yours, you can't have it, you have to work for it."

In many urban societies, that person doesn't exist or is dead via violent crime because nobody told THEM the above.

There's your problem.

Had Michael Brown been parented at five he may not have been appropriately shot at fifteen.

EDIT: wait, something clicked. We're not using the word the same way. I mean personal entitlement, not entitlements as a noun.

I'm talking about both. I understand you have been claiming personal entitlement. I am claiming this yammering about entitlement has a goal of de-legitimizing social insurance.

Most of your post is just you restating your 'entitlement theory of crime.' The question remains, what reasons are there to think all this is actually the case?

I do appreciate hearing of your attempts at researching this. You apparently didn't come up with something you'd like to share, though. I will take a look as you suggest.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

How so? The so-called "beating" Wilson received that produced barely discernable marks on his face?

Yeah, I saw that little strawberry on his cheeky poo.

That's the kind of thing that if you went crying to your mother about it when you were 7 years old the other kids would laugh at you and call you a sissy.

[sheltiedave]

Finn, you like your guns, if I'm not mistaken.

If Brown was trying to wrest the Sig Sauer from Wilson, as Wilson testified, and Wilson attempted to fire it twice but surmised Brown's right hand prevented the hammer from striking, wouldn't Brown have blood blisters or cuts that would have the hammer strike pattern present on the meat of his right hand?

Also, If Brown were squared up to the window, and had a grip on the gun, and was striking Wilson on the left side of his face with his left hand while having his head inside the Tahoe, wouldn't the bullet that did fire and strike Brown's right thumb at 9" - 12", then passing through the inner door handle before exiting the SUV, also stand a great chance of striking Brown's torso outside the Tahoe?

I know 6'4" dudes that weigh 290 pounds, and they are tree stumps. There wouldn't be a chance in hell they would not get struck as long as the bullet trajectory wasn't going straight down, which isn't the case here.

[finnbow]

I don't know. The grand jury ship has sailed. You're pissing in the wind.

[sheltiedave]

You do realize that McCulloch can request a hearing before a trial judge and be granted a jury trial, still?

And by the exit hole from the door, why that is nigh belly high. Brown would need to be almost completely the other side of the door frame to avoid it. almost like he was try to pull away from Wilson...

http://listverse.com/2014/11/25/10-o...son-testimony/

The grand jury has sailed, but this case will be talked about for years. Just like OJ has gone, on and on.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

You do realize that McCulloch can request a hearing before a trial judge and be granted a jury trial, still?

And by the exit hole from the door, why that is nigh belly high. Brown would need to be almost completely the other side of the door frame to avoid it. almost like he was try to pull away from Wilson...

http://listverse.com/2014/11/25/10-o...son-testimony/

The grand jury has sailed, but this case will be talked about for years. Just like OJ has gone, on and on.

Why should he? It's abundantly clear that he would be acquitted.