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Old 12-01-2014, 07:26 AM
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What is your idea about what has destroyed the black family unit over the last few generations ?
Institutional racism is what has caused the black people to struggle since 1865.

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Old 12-01-2014, 07:42 AM
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You miss the point: the folks believing themselves entitled to your stuff don't give a damn about your experience (see Brown v. shopkeeper), their only typical feelings being aggression towards those who would -- appropriately -- question their perceived criminalistic rights (see Wilson v. Brown).

Animals just want their meal.

Sure, we can kick around WHY Brown was like that but it all distills to his believing he was owed something not his.

Entitlement.
Would you forget Brown and Wilson for a second and consider what is being done with the word "entitlement" and consider the connections being made?

Government programs, Food Stamps, Section8, Unemployment, Medicare, Social Security, the myriad pension and retirement benefits, any benefits, public or private negotiated by organized labor or mandated by law.....

= "Entitlement".

Now;

"Entitlement" = "Theft", "Looting", "Violence", etc., etc............

Therefore;

"Entitlement" = "Bad".

Whatever "beast" the right has long wanted to kill = Entitlement, Entitlement = Crime, Crime is bad, entitlement is bad.

You don't see what's going on there?

Tell me; Before this Ferguson mess, when was the last time you heard the phrases "entitlement violence", "entitlement theft", "entitlement looting"......

I heard it for the first time a while back....

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Old 12-01-2014, 07:46 AM
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Institutional racism is what has caused the black people to struggle since 1865.
You would think this is obvious. The truth s that what's going on goes beyond wanting to "free" blacks from "entitlement". There are all sorts of things they'd like to "free" us all from.

Think about it.

See the game.

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Old 12-01-2014, 07:51 AM
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Would you forget Brown and Wilson for a second and consider what is being done with the word "entitlement" and consider the connections being made?

Government programs, Food Stamps, Section8, Unemployment, Medicare, Social Security, the myriad pension and retirement benefits, any benefits, public or private negotiated by organized labor or mandated by law.....

= "Entitlement".

Now;

"Entitlement" = "Theft", "Looting", "Violence", etc., etc............

Therefore;

"Entitlement" = "Bad".

Whatever "beast" the right has long wanted to kill = Entitlement, Entitlement = Crime, Crime is bad, entitlement is bad.

You don't see what's going on there?

Tell me; Before this Ferguson mess, when was the last time you heard the phrases "entitlement violence", "entitlement theft", "entitlement looting"......

I heard it for the first time a while back....

On EIB.

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en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
noun
noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements

the fact of having a right to something.



Anything beyond this is opinion.
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:54 AM
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en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/
noun
noun: entitlement; plural noun: entitlements

the fact of having a right to something.

Anything beyond this is opinion.
In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who "[ Freud said ] because of early frustrations, they arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entitlement#Narcissism

What about this, Mr. DSM V?
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:27 AM
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That's "sense of entitlement", Finn, not actual entitlement.

There are things in this life we are entitled to. Convincing us we're not is the first step towards relieving us of those things. Demonizing those things through this "entitlement theft" bullchit and vilifying us for claiming them is a way to trick us into wanting to give them up.

Have you ever heard the term "generational theft"? It's a term created to make old people believe they are stealing from each others grandchildren and feel ashamed for doing it.

This is a variation on that meme.

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Old 12-01-2014, 08:38 AM
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Aren't buying what, the store vid? That didn't happen?
There was a chain of events leading to his demise that began somewhere, who was responsible for that? The clerk? Darren Wilson?
You get mugged in Ferguson, the poster child mugger gets support. Gotta wonder how long Mike Brown's been getting off with this crap before he turned 18, it'd probably be political suicide to unseal and publish his juvenile record.


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Ooops, sorry. Michael had zero juvenile record, Pio. Nada.

He wasn't a choir boy, but he had no record, and was made fun of by the local Bloods gang.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:41 AM
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What is your idea about what has destroyed the black family unit over the last few generations ?
Racial prejudice which in turn led too all the other problems.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:47 AM
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In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who "[ Freud said ] because of early frustrations, they arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entitlement#Narcissism

What about this, Mr. DSM V?
I have seen the narcissistic personality up close and personal and I can tell you that proposing that it is a mass psychosis occurring in in the majority of the population is a stretch. They can be totally charming and unaware of what they are doing.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:50 AM
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In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who "[ Freud said ] because of early frustrations, they arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entitlement#Narcissism

What about this, Mr. DSM V?
One sentence from Freud. Freud was not an experimentalist. He was a quite subtle theorist, and no one sentence from him, stripped out of his vast web of thought, is going to well-represent the structure and nuance of his ideas.

This is just an example of argument from authority, using a famous-name quote selected to suit the purpose.
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