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Old 11-08-2014, 07:45 AM
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I like Joe. He's a lovable goof.

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That is a mistake a lot of people make, Biden is no goof, he was the only one to offer a sensible solution for Iraq - three separate states in a federation.

All the wise men thought they could form a single democracy between two mullah ridden muslim sects that have hated each other for 700 years and the Kurds who had been exploited by both Shia and Sunni. Look how well tht is working.
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Old 11-08-2014, 08:35 AM
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That is a mistake a lot of people make, Biden is no goof, he was the only one to offer a sensible solution for Iraq - three separate states in a federation.
...except we're not dealing with sensible people over there. A solution that is not workable is not a solution.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:20 AM
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That is a mistake a lot of people make, Biden is no goof, he was the only one to offer a sensible solution for Iraq - three separate states in a federation.
You're right. Biden is one of the smartest people in Washington. He would have made a great President.

His problem is that he is an honest straight talker who speaks his mind.

That doesn't work in politics.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:24 AM
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I think its a good way to make a point. ".

i agree

rand is a considered and deliberate politician

he could go far
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:01 AM
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...except we're not dealing with sensible people over there. A solution that is not workable is not a solution.
Biden's solution was the only solution that could work. A solution that retains the borderlines drawn in the sand by the British without regard to religion or ethnicity has no chance.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:03 AM
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A solution that is not workable is not a solution.
Did you ever tell that to your boys Bush and Cheney?
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:56 AM
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Did you ever tell that to your boys Bush and Cheney?
Nah. whell's line is that all GOP leaders shit pure gold.

It was on Fox!
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:03 AM
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Biden's solution was the only solution that could work. A solution that retains the borderlines drawn in the sand by the British without regard to religion or ethnicity has no chance.
Yup. And if you attached wings to pigs and threw them off a roof, they "could" fly.
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:09 AM
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Nah. whell's line is that all GOP leaders shit pure gold.

It was on Fox!
Establishing a democratic form of gov't in Iraq was a worthy goal. Kind of like Obamacare. To bad neither of them worked out well.
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:17 PM
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Establishing a democratic form of gov't in Iraq was a worthy goal. Kind of like Obamacare. To bad neither of them worked out well.
It was an unrealistic and unattainable goal that cost a trillion dollars and over 100,000 lives and ultimately gave birth to ISIS. Spare me any more such worthy NeoCon goals.
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