Well, it's done - Page 5

JJIII · #41 03-23-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal

Driving is not a hobby as this statement makes it sound.

No, it's not a hobby, but you can arrange your life so that it isn't necessary. Live in town so walking or even a bicycle will get the job done. (I will say that I chose to live about 20 miles out of town and I do drive... and buy insurance.)

merrylander · #42 03-23-2010, 07:06 AM

Will someone please read the f**king manual. The restrictions on the health insurance industry kick in in 6 months. The compulsory bit is in 2014, tax on so called Caddilac plans not until2018. If you are at or below 400% of the poverty line you get some aid in paying.

We will not likely see any change so we will still be paying whatever Medicare B charges, currently $96.40 each per month for our two flu shots. Blue Cross/Blue Shields Care first about $4800 each per year. I forget what the disaster part costs.

And you can blame all this on the American penchant for, as Churchill noted "Ultimately doing the right thing after you have tried every conceivable alternative first." slightly paraphrased and not an exact quote.

Grumpy · #43 03-23-2010, 07:35 AM

Just heard this morning that the preexisting condition clause takes effect immediately. Guess that means rate hikes to follow immediately.

noonereal · #44 03-23-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JJIII

No, it's not a hobby, but you can arrange your life so that it isn't necessary. Live in town so walking or even a bicycle will get the job done. (I will say that I chose to live about 20 miles out of town and I do drive... and buy insurance.)

although your statement is true, it is not practical

noonereal · #45 03-23-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

Just heard this morning that the preexisting condition clause takes effect immediately. Guess that means rate hikes to follow immediately.

We need more info on this bill but from what I have heard insurance premiums started rising already in anticipation of this mandate. (along with profits)

piece-itpete · #46 03-23-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal

Bullshit

Don't bore us to death with your longwindedness noone.

Pete

Bigerik · #47 03-23-2010, 08:30 AM

London Times has some interesting articles on it. Had to go outside of the US media to find some perspective on it.

Charles · #48 03-23-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G

This sets up a VERY bad precedent, IMHO, too. If the Gummint can COMPEL us to buy something-or even FORCE us to do something when we're not harming anyone else, why stop w/just this ?

Well, they certainly didn't START with just this.

Chas

rickr15 · #49 03-23-2010, 08:37 AM

Just wonder how all this is going to play out in court. Cogress passed this on the premise that they can control interstate commerce. No where does it say they can compel commerce.

I'm betting the SCJ's are getting some serious lobby cash tossed their way about now.

Bigerik · #50 03-23-2010, 08:43 AM

I guess we can allow people to opt out of supporting the military also. Local police maybe too.