Iraq unravels!

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If $2 trillion and thousands of dead didn't work in Iraq, why would a few odd weapons work in Syria?

It will be a cakewalk.

We will be greeted as liberators.

The oil revenue will pay for it all.

[icenine]

64 million dollar queston: If the Kurdish sector of Iraq faces an existential threat will we come to the rescue with boots on the ground? Their loyalty to the United States and the stable lynchpin (along with Baghdad) they provide to the conception of Iraq as a state are factors that are very hard to dismiss lightly.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

It will be a cakewalk.

We will be greeted as liberators.

The oil revenue will pay for it all.

NeoCon's still believe it while wanting us to buy into their silliness that Obama caused the current mess in Iraq. It seems to me that the only one who correctly predicted what's currently happening and what could have been done to prevent it was Joe Biden in 2006. Needless to say, the NeoCon's criticized him brutally for his frank and prescient views.

[piece-itpete]

Pilots?

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Obama is wonderful (or is that 'obomba'? It's not me actually sending anyone anywhere), even though you disagree with him, because, Bush lol.

Pete

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

64 million dollar queston: If the Kurdish sector of Iraq faces an existential threat will we come to the rescue with boots on the ground? Their loyalty to the United States and the stable lynchpin (along with Baghdad) they provide to the conception of Iraq as a state are factors that are very hard to dismiss lightly.

No, we won't send boots on the ground. As for the Kurds being a stable lynchpin (along with Maliki in Baghdad), I think you got the second half of that assertion wrong. Baghdad (or more specifically, (Dubya's hand-picked) Maliki) is a biggest cause of this mess inside Iraq's borders.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by icenine

64 million dollar queston: If the Kurdish sector of Iraq faces an existential threat will we come to the rescue with boots on the ground? Their loyalty to the United States and the stable lynchpin (along with Baghdad) they provide to the conception of Iraq as a state are factors that are very hard to dismiss lightly.

I'd support that myself.

And let Kurdistan declare independence.

And let them have the Kirkuk oil fields.

Fuck the rest of Iraq.

Make it a free fire zone like we did in Nam.

Kill eveything that moves.

Men, women, children, cats, dogs, pigs, chickens, goats, camels, whatever.

If it moves shoot it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QzJKCUekQ

Hows that for War mongering Pete?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I'd support that myself.

Especially if it meant an independent Kurdistan.

I'd even let the Kurds have the Kirkuk oil fields.

The trouble is that Baghdad wants that territory (along with its oil) as much as the Kurds do.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The trouble is that Baghdad wants that territory (along with its oil) as much as the Kurds do.

Tuff shit.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

No, we won't send boots on the ground. As for the Kurds being a stable lynchpin (along with Maliki in Baghdad), I think you got the second half of that assertion wrong. Baghdad (or more specifically, (Dubya's hand-picked) Maliki) is a biggest cause of this mess inside Iraq's borders.

Yeah but you cannot deny that the Kurdish sector has been a safe-haven during the last 15 years for American interests and investment in oil and business. Plus they have been very loyal allies. I would posit that the loss of that sector would both a politcal and moral blow to United States...maybe more so than the loss of Baghdad would be.

I think you are wrong about my point: the Kurds and the Shia are Iraq right now. Baghdad and the Kurdish sector are what is left of what we can call Iraq.

My take on Malaki is that perhaps it was impossible to reach out to the Sunnis.

I mean look at the history of Saddam. A Sunni. And look at ISIS.