Israel has invaded Gaza...

[piece-itpete]

Ike, I'd add, that the prejudice/hatred against Jews is such a persistent thing throughout at least Western history. Ebbs and flows. If I were them I'd be worried about it and I'm sure they are.

Pete

P.S. - stop being so racist

[whell]

Let's see. Criticize the current president of the United States, and those criticisms are attributed to "racial animus" (thanks to Eric Holder) by members of this forum, and those members suggest that those leveling those criticisms are "racists".

So, what should we say about those here who criticize the Israelis?

[whell]

Frankly, the comparisons to the Nazi's fails miserably just by applying a little logic and a bit of history.

[piece-itpete]

Zeke, they're gassing the Arabs en masse?

Pete

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by whell

So, what should we say about those here who criticize the Israelis?

That we recognize the idea of Israeli's requiring their breathing room as the very definition of historical irony?

And that you are the ongoing master of red herrings.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Zeke, they're gassing the Arabs en masse?

Pete

So now we're weighing degrees of wrongful death in the face of Manifest Destiny?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

You fire rockets..kill probably one Israeli and loses 200 of your own people in the process. Isn't that suicidal?

It is logical to assume the worst if an organization uses suicidal bombings as a strategy.

No, that's not suicidal. That's just 'willing to absorb some losses.' They guys in charge will be just fine, as I said. As long as they stay in power, it's not suicide for them, it's the opposite. It's staying alive.

Suicide bombing is a tactic that involves one sacrificial individual at a time. You're drawing too broad a conclusion from it. But what does all this talk of 'suicidal Palestinians' mean anyway? That what happens to them is their fault? It that the big point of your argument?

[nailer]

Death of the Firstborn plague is the first recorded act of political terrorism.

King David Hotel bombing.

As long as Israel's population grows and is productive it will require and acquire more territory.

It would be wise to wash our hands of Israel, but that's not going to happen.

Israel is not even close to being Nazi Germany.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

I have no doubt Hamas would use the nuclear
option if they had it.

So you are indeed convinced they are a monstrous, crazed monolithic 'they?" There's no rationality among them? They are not really a human community then, are they?

It follow there is no reason not to just kill them all, and no alternative. That's just where your 'logic' goes. Are you actually OK with that?

[CarlV]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I think most of the world already sees that.

Not that I am any great fan of the Palestinians, but the Israelis treat them like shit.

It's incredible to me, after the treatment their parents and grandparents had under the Nazi's, that they can't see that they are doing the same thing to the Palestinians. They might as well start wearing armbands with swastikas on them.

+1

There can never be a good reason to blow up innocent Palestinian children with bombs. It is not like the Palestinians could stop Israeli troops from coming in and taking out these places without blowing up any innocents at all anyway.


Carl