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07-05-2014, 08:34 AM
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No, it didn't.
However, what it does demonstrate is that a government that continues to expand its reach almost always does so at the expense of individual rights. When folks here in this forum cheer on the expansion of something like the ACA, which seemingly extends its reach with each new reg written by HHS, it comes at a cost...which may seem minor today until its your freedoms being challenged.
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People across the nation are carrying their AR-15s to Walmart and you whine about individual rights being taken away. Not only that they are taking their stupid little dogs to the grocery store too!!
Yeah all those people on Kentucky's exchange getting health care for the first time have the steel-booted heel of the big government boot on their backs
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07-05-2014, 09:03 AM
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Well here is religious freedom for you. In all the efforts to destroy ACA (which incidentally we did not sign up for) we have the freedom to pay $11,000 a year for health insurance* while watching as various religions try to say what we can or cannot do.
In Canada we would have equal or better health care for a maximum of $1,000 a year if that. As to freedoms the Canadian Bill of Rights is being used as a model by other countries.
*Since it does not cover preventative care it is really disease insurance paying only after you have caught summat.
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07-05-2014, 09:47 AM
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Well here is religious freedom for you. In all the efforts to destroy ACA (which incidentally we did not sign up for) we have the freedom to pay $11,000 a year for health insurance* while watching as various religions try to say what we can or cannot do.
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Exactly what in the Hobby Lobby or Wheaton U decisions tells you personally what you can or can't do? Let me help you. NOTHING!
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07-05-2014, 09:51 AM
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Alito, while dining on Uncle Sugar his whole career after law school, has decided that he will use the United States has his lab rat upon which he can foist his conservative and libertarian injections without any limits thanks to the other four idiots. He is like Paul Ryan without any brakes.
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Well written my ex-patriot Ohioan brother.
Dave
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07-05-2014, 09:59 AM
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I feel no less free than I ever have. In fact I come and go as I please, speak my mind as always, associate with whatever individuals or groups as I like, explore my spirituality as I please and choose my own path in life. If you feel imprisoned in any way I suggest you look inward and examine your own mind to find your jailer.
Have a Great Day and enjoy your holiday weekend, my Fellow Americans.
Dave
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07-05-2014, 11:42 AM
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Exactly what in the Hobby Lobby or Wheaton U decisions tells you personally what you can or can't do? Let me help you. NOTHING!
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Perhaps I should have bolded the word 'try' that they so far have been unsuccessful but they are still insisting that the whole nation has to bow to their 'beliefs'.
We all of us have beliefs but which of us has demanded that the ACA or any other government function must accommodate those beliefs.
And if it is yet to dawn on you Mike I really don't need your 'help' as it is quite apparent that we have diametrically opposed views. I will happily admit that you are quite intelligent but from your posts it is apparent, to me at least, that you are completely lacking in compassion.
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07-05-2014, 12:18 PM
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Exactly what in the Hobby Lobby or Wheaton U decisions tells you personally what you can or can't do? Let me help you. NOTHING!
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It says, you better stop having sex with your hubby after your first child. Your sex days are over.
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07-05-2014, 12:22 PM
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It says, you better stop having sex with your hubby after your first child. Your sex days are over. 
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Ah, the Chinese democracy. Clever.
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07-05-2014, 12:32 PM
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It says, you better stop having sex with your hubby after your first child. Your sex days are over. 
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I often wonder why the Catholic Hierarchy (mostly male) always assumes that Catholic women do not have the same hormones as Protestant women? As a matter of fact have been married to both (not at the same time) I found the reverse to be true.
Abstinence may be possible to some dried up old prune but it sure as hell does not work in people's 20s, or 30s, or 40s, or 50s, hell it plain does not work as long as you are breathing.
Interesting I was reading just earlier this week that researchers have found that hugging and kissing your significant other will prolong your life if done regularly. Apparently it releases some chemical in the brain that brings pleasure and reduces one that causes stress. At this rate we ought to make it to 115.
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07-05-2014, 01:00 PM
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I often wonder why the Catholic Hierarchy (mostly male) always assumes that Catholic women do not have the same hormones as Protestant women? As a matter of fact have been married to both (not at the same time) I found the reverse to be true.
Abstinence may be possible to some dried up old prune but it sure as hell does not work in people's 20s, or 30s, or 40s, or 50s, hell it plain does not work as long as you are breathing.
Interesting I was reading jut earlier this week that researchers have found that hugging and kissing your significant other will prolong your life if done regularly. Apparently it releases some chemical in the brain that brings pleasure and reduces one that causes stress. At this rate we ought to make it to 115. 
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I get that! I do! Many people want sex but don't want the babies that come wit it after dey has already raised dey babies. Dey just want to retire enjoy dey self. Dats all!
This law will put a great big wedge in it for dey young. Dats a fact. If we deny contraception, abortions will follow. Dats also a fact dat does not require much thinkin if one has a propensity to think at all.
Someone said sumpin about hypocrisy. We's is all hypocritical at some point and especially the people that bitch the most on the subject. Dats a fact too!
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