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Old 06-30-2014, 10:13 AM
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I guess a corporation could fire an employee for committing adultery as well(?). What about Gay marriage?
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:14 AM
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There is part of the ruling that does not affect ACA specifically in any other way, but it sure does set a weird precedent much as you describe.


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And opens the door for striking down any Government funding using taxpayers money.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:52 AM
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OK, Where do we go from here? If my employee has an abortion with the money I paid her, can I fire her if my religion is against abortion? This is going to get crazy...
Your logic is good. There is no end to the infringements that are possible in the name of religion. What you suggest makes as much sense as telling women what they can do with their health insurance.

Combining religious motivation with state power is a fast road to tyranny. The two need to check each other, not reinforce each other. That's why they have to be kept seperated.

This is a rotten ruling by a rotten court.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:56 AM
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And opens the door for striking down any Government funding using taxpayers money.
Just look at this sentence and see how nonsensical it is. Should all government funding now come from profits on government-owned property, interest on treasury notes, and user fees?
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:01 AM
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Just look at this sentence and see how nonsensical it is. Should all government funding now come from profits on government-owned property, interest on treasury notes, and user fees?
I think he's suggesting the government can't spend someone's tax money of something that violates their religion. And whatever that implies.

It's very deep.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:10 AM
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I think he's suggesting the government can't spend someone's tax money of something that violates their religion. And whatever that implies.

It's very deep.
That is not what was said however. The statement itself merely suggests that the court now can rule that the government cannot spend taxpayer money.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:14 AM
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Whatever road you take with it, it's not going to get anywhere that makes sense....
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:34 AM
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Your logic is good. There is no end to the infringements that are possible in the name of religion. What you suggest makes as much sense as telling women what they can do with their health insurance.

Combining religious motivation with state power is a fast road to tyranny. The two need to check each other, not reinforce each other. That's why they have to be kept seperated.

This is a rotten ruling by a rotten court.
Indeed, while we have freedom of religion, we've no guarantee to be free from religion or it's tyranny.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:01 PM
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OK, Where do we go from here? If my employee has an abortion with the money I paid her, can I fire her if my religion is against abortion? This is going to get crazy...
You really don't know that we're already there? It's an "at-will" country. With minor clauses in a few states, every employer in every state in this nation can fire you immediately and without cause, at will. Because it's automatically assumed you were hired "at-will". It's already crazy.

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Old 06-30-2014, 12:03 PM
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I guess a corporation could fire an employee for committing adultery as well(?). What about Gay marriage?
Yes. Being a cheat, being a liar, being gay, being a smoker, being a Jew, being black, being white, even being 5 below. Because they don't have to disclose why the employee was fired. If the employee decides to file a wrongful termination suit, they may be forced to disclose the cause in court. They will lie, of course.

The way the law works in this country now...you're taking an enormously bigger legal risk giving a former employee a negative referral than you are for firing the same employee for being gay or having an abortion.

You want to know what this country has become, when it comes to the environment every worker deals with?
Take a look...


Take the religious part of it this crap for a second and it's just more of the same.

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