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Old 06-03-2014, 09:15 PM
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Honestly, I haven't been following it, I've been ridiculously busy the last couple of days, doing a ton of work to my work truck and cycling group stuff.

I just did some reading up. I didn't realize six guys had been sent to "rescue" this guy. Looks like a terribly botched "Saving Private Ryan" with a disappointing ending sort of deal.

Dang it.

Dave
The dude left a note on his bunk, left all his gear snuck out in the middle of the night under the fence. He went AW to join the Talaban, Dave he is another Johnny Talaban.

Then when they sent a unit to drag his ass back they were attacked killing 6 soldiers

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Old 06-03-2014, 09:17 PM
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This is starting to look like swiftboating to me because the President has many enemies on the far right that cannot stand it when an African American president does good. Bottom line is that we rescued an American who is innocent until proven guilty in either a military or civilian court. I find it so hard to believe that inherent racism on the far right because of the President's color has created a political scandal just because we did the right thing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5440532.html

this is going to backfire. And even if I am wrong the accused needs his day in court.
Only the GOP could turn a POW's rescue into a political issue.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:25 PM
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Only the GOP could turn a POW's rescue into a political issue.
Wow...I don't know what your reading or seeing. That radical & racist Righty Sen. Feinstein is calling the Prez out for breaking the law too.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bow...l-deal-n121721
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:36 PM
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So, this is where it stands at the moment, as far as I can tell. The following is from General Dempsey.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...603-story.html
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:49 PM
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Thing is, and a former General (On CNN) just said what I was thinking; Whether Bergdahl is a deserter or not really doesn't make much difference. They would have gone after him anyways, even if it was just to arrest him and send him to court marshal. That would have happened under any C-in-C. The only thing that truly makes it controversial is that the president painted this clown as a hero in the Rose Garden, in front of the whole world. He shouldn't have done that.
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Yeah, this story is changing every hour. Did you see his father speaking in the Rose Garden yet?
No, I haven't. I've heard he broke into speaking some sort of bastardized Arabic, "......because I don't think he (Bowe) understands English anymore."

Kind of a strange comment to make.

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Old 06-03-2014, 11:24 PM
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Thing is, and a former General (On CNN) just said what I was thinking; Whether Bergdahl is a deserter or not really doesn't make much difference. They would have gone after him anyways, even if it was just to arrest him and send him to court marshal. That would have happened under any C-in-C. The only thing that truly makes it controversial is that the president painted this clown as a hero in the Rose Garden, in front of the whole world. He shouldn't have done that.
That's what I said, his action killed 6 other Americans.


"The only thing that truly makes it controversial is that the president painted this clown as a hero in the Rose Garden, in front of the whole world. He shouldn't have done that."


WHAT!!

Dave, Obama broke the law in doing what he did. Is that not controversial?

He negotiated with terrorist to relice 5 top terrorist. Is that not controversial?
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I bet Sen. Feinstein is still mad at the NSA & this was the straw that broke the camels back.
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E-mails reported by the late Michael Hastings in Rolling Stone in 2012 reveal what Bergdahl's fellow infantrymen learned within days of his disappearance: He told people that he no longer supported the U.S. effort in Afghanistan.
"The future is too good to waste on lies," he wrote to his parents. "And life is way too short to care for the damnation of others, as well as to spend it helping fools with their ideas that are wrong. I have seen their ideas and I am ashamed to even be American. The horror of the self-righteous arrogance that they thrive in. It is all revolting."
Bergdahl wrote to them, "I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting."
CNN has not independently verified the authenticity of the e-mails.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/us/ber...erter-or-hero/

Soldiers died during search
Former Pfc. Jose Baggett, 27, of Chicago, was also in Blackfoot Company and said he was close to two men "killed because of his (Bergdahl's) actions."
"He walked off," Baggett told CNN. "He left his guard post. Nobody knows if he defected or he's a traitor or he was kidnapped. What I do know is, he was there to protect us, and instead he decided to defer from America and go and do his own thing. I don't know why he decided to do that, but we spent so much of our resources, and some of those resources were soldiers' lives."
Many soldiers on the ground at the time said insurgents were able to take advantage of the intense search for Bergdahl.
"A huge thing in-country is not building patterns. Well when you are looking for a person every day that creates a pattern. While searching for him, ambushes and IEDs picked up tremendously. Enemy knew we would be coming. IEDs started being placed more effectively in the coming weeks. Ambushes were more calculated, cover and concealment was used," Full tweeted.
On August 18, 2009, Staff Sgt. Clayton Bowen and Pfc. Morris Walker were killed by an IED in the search for Bergdahl. Staff Sgt. Kurt Curtiss was killed on August 26; 2nd Lt. Darryn Andrews and Pfc. Matthew Michael Martinek were killed after being attacked in Yahya Khail District on September 4; Staff Sgt. Michael Murphrey was killed September 5 by an IED at the Forward Operating Base, Sharana.
Moreover, other operations were put on hold while the search for Bergdahl was made a top priority, according to officers who served in Afghanistan during that time. Manpower and assets -- such as scarce surveillance drones and helicopters -- were redirected to the hunt. The lack of assets is one reason the closure of a dangerous combat outpost, COP Keating, was delayed. Eight soldiers were killed at COP Keating before it was ultimately closed.
One soldier with the 509th Regiment, a sister unit of the 501st, told CNN that after Bergdahl disappeared, the U.S. Army essentially was told to lock down the entire province of Paktika. He described sitting in the middle of a field with his platoon, vulnerable, with capabilities and personnel mismanaged throughout the region. Different platoons ran out of water, food and ammunition.
Two mortarmen -- Pvt. Aaron Fairbairn and Pfc. Justin Casillas -- were killed in a July 4, 2009, attack.
"It was unbelievable," the soldier said. "All because of the selfish act of one person. The amount of animosity (toward him) is nothing like you've ever seen before."
That Bergdahl was freed in an exchange for five detainees at Guantanamo Bay is a further source of consternation.
"I don't understand why we're trading prisoners at Gitmo for somebody who deserted during a time of war, which is an act of treason," Vierkant said.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:44 PM
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At no time of US history have we ever released prisoners for a hostage. EVER!!!!!

Until Obamas ideals out weigh this counties principles.
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