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10-21-2013, 10:28 AM
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Some interesting news out of Texas on ACA.
Hey, Ted Cruz! These Texans Say Obamacare Is Helping Them
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...re-helps-texas
Rick Perry Is Actually Encouraging Texans To Enroll In Obamacare
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...oll-obamacare/
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10-28-2013, 03:31 PM
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More bullcrap courtesy of Faux News.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...actor/?hpid=z3
Dianne Barrette is their case study that proves to their pea brained viewers that the ACA is evil.
"Perfect sound bite for Fox News! In a chat with the Erik Wemple Blog, Barrette confirmed that three Fox News producers had called to sign her on. She’ll be appearing tomorrow on the imbecilic morning show “Fox & Friends,” “Your World” with the great Neil Cavuto and on Greta Van Susteren’s program, “On the Record.”
“You guys are going to be sick of my face,” jokes Barrette, who works as a realtor and pulls in about $30,000 per year.
More coverage may provide a deeper understanding of the ins and outs of Barrette’s situation: Her current health insurance plan, she says, doesn’t cover “extended hospital stays; it’s not designed for that,” says Barrette. Well, does it cover any hospitalization? “Outpatient only,” responds Barrette. Nor does it cover ambulance service and some prenatal care. On the other hand, says Barrette, it does cover “most of my generic drugs that I need” and there’s a $50 co-pay for doctors’ appointments. “It’s all I could afford right now,” says Barrette.
In sum, it’s a pray-that-you-don’t-really-get-sick “plan.” When asked if she ever required hospitalization, Barrette says she did. It happened when she was employed by Raytheon, which provided “excellent benefits.” Ever since she left the company and started working as an independent contractor, “I haven’t been hospitalized since then, thank God.” Hospitalization is among the core requirements for health-care plans under Obamacare."
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11-01-2013, 06:34 PM
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11-02-2013, 07:17 AM
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Reading through this thread suddenly made me think back to the days when i was lecturing in Europe. Made many friends in places like England, The Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland. All places with higher taxes than here but generally universal healthcare and other government amenities. We (Florence usually went with me) never heard all the bitching and moaning like this place has, people seemed genuinely happy.
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11-30-2013, 11:48 AM
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True enough, Rob. My time living in the US really convinced me that Americans, for all their wealth, are both the most unhappy, and the most scared, people in the western world.
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11-30-2013, 11:53 AM
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Yeah every time I see rover at the store I get scared..dogs are everywhere now.
I guess I really do not get scared about the CCW cos I can't see them.
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11-30-2013, 12:34 PM
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True enough, Rob. My time living in the US really convinced me that Americans, for all their wealth, are both the most unhappy, and the most scared, people in the western world.
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I experienced the same thing during my time in the Navy. People, left and right, bitch about this country. And yet, I found folks living under conditions unimaginable to the average American who still manage to find happiness and even success. It drives me crazy.....(Especially the business types, driving around in their Beamers, talking on their $500 cell phones and living in their McMansions crying about their taxes and their workers. The urge to slap them around is beyond description. Maybe they should spend a few weeks living on the savannah with the Masai? Fucking crybaby idiots.)
Dave
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11-30-2013, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
More bullcrap courtesy of Faux News.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...actor/?hpid=z3
Dianne Barrette is their case study that proves to their pea brained viewers that the ACA is evil.
"Perfect sound bite for Fox News! In a chat with the Erik Wemple Blog, Barrette confirmed that three Fox News producers had called to sign her on. She’ll be appearing tomorrow on the imbecilic morning show “Fox & Friends,” “Your World” with the great Neil Cavuto and on Greta Van Susteren’s program, “On the Record.”
“You guys are going to be sick of my face,” jokes Barrette, who works as a realtor and pulls in about $30,000 per year.
More coverage may provide a deeper understanding of the ins and outs of Barrette’s situation: Her current health insurance plan, she says, doesn’t cover “extended hospital stays; it’s not designed for that,” says Barrette. Well, does it cover any hospitalization? “Outpatient only,” responds Barrette. Nor does it cover ambulance service and some prenatal care. On the other hand, says Barrette, it does cover “most of my generic drugs that I need” and there’s a $50 co-pay for doctors’ appointments. “It’s all I could afford right now,” says Barrette.
In sum, it’s a pray-that-you-don’t-really-get-sick “plan.” When asked if she ever required hospitalization, Barrette says she did. It happened when she was employed by Raytheon, which provided “excellent benefits.” Ever since she left the company and started working as an independent contractor, “I haven’t been hospitalized since then, thank God.” Hospitalization is among the core requirements for health-care plans under Obamacare."
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http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/healt...al-bills-2013/
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“In 2013 over 20% of American adults are struggling to pay their medical bills, and three in five bankruptcies will be due to medical bills. While we are quick to blame debt on poor savings and bad spending habits, our study emphasizes the burden of health costs causing widespread indebtedness. Medical bills can completely overwhelm a family when illness strikes,” says Christina LaMontagne, VP of Health at NerdWallet. “Furthermore, 25 million people hesitate to take their medications in order to control their medical costs. Unfortunately this can lead to even worse financial outcomes as preventative treatments are not rendered and patients end up using expensive ambulance and ER care as their health worsens.”
Finally, many question whether President Obama’s universal health insurance mandate will protect Americans from problems with medical bills. “Insurance is no silver bullet,” says LaMontagne. “Even with insurance coverage, we expect 10 million Americans will face bills they are unable to pay.”
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12-01-2013, 05:08 PM
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12-02-2013, 05:30 AM
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Yeah, this is great news....
"Even with the improved performance, some people are likely to encounter problems on the site. And there is another worry — reports sent to insurance companies about who has enrolled in health plans include errors that could cause problems when people try to use their new insurance plans next year.
Administration officials, in talking to reporters, were careful not to declare a full-fledged victory. In a report issued Sunday, officials with the Department of Health and Human Services said the next few months would require further work to “improve and enhance the website and continue to improve the consumer experience.” Officials have also said repeatedly that consumers might still encounter difficulties and urged them to use the call center and seek help from specially trained personnel."
You and I are reading that link in entirely different ways.  (Yes, I did read the whole thing.)
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