Well, Now That ObamaCare is legal . . . - Page 3

CarlV · #21 06-29-2012, 12:20 PM

It looks like the market is up and staying up after all this. Even Rupert's rag is saying so.
http://quotes.wsj.com/index/DJI

Carl

whell · #22 06-29-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

It occurs to me that we only have your word for those source of the 2010 numbers. The only source cited in your chart is Ways and Means. Could you verify for us that the 2010 figures are indeed CBO numbers?

They're all over the internet. As I've said before, I'm not doing your homework for you. Go find it. You'll see that estimates generally have a range and have been revised a bit, but right now estimates are around $540 with the last CBO estimate, which is a a couple years old now. Treat it as a learning opportunity!

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Trillion? Where does that number come from?

Harry Reid. That was the number that he kept going back to when they were trying to get it passed, suggesting that HE wouldn't be satisfied unless they could keep bring in PPACA under $1 trillion. However, the CBO this spring estimated that the 2013-22 cost of implementing the act would amount to just over $1T. That is, if you accept Reuters as a source.

http://ebn.benefitnews.com/news/ppac...2722876-1.html

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Get rid of the Bush tax cuts and the problem - if there is one - is solved.John

Give me a source for that projection, please.

bhunter · #23 06-29-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

There's your answer, razorwired. The wing wankers will bitch and moan about it forever without ever bothering to learn what the bill really will do.

John

Do you know what the bill really does? I thought that was one of the major obstacles, namely, knowing all of the subsequent effects of the PPACA after implementation.

piece-itpete · #24 06-29-2012, 02:02 PM

bh, the bill makes our health care as good as France's

Pete

Boreas · #25 06-29-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

They're all over the internet. As I've said before, I'm not doing your homework for you. Go find it.

That would be your homework,not mine. You're the one making the assertion, not me.

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Give me a source for that projection, please.

Four trillion over 10 years.

John

Oerets · #26 06-29-2012, 02:17 PM

I don't recall ever hearing or reading that this bill was the final word in Healthcare policy. A beginning attempt to address a problem that went untouched for to many years. I think Truman tried in vain when England was setting up there system.
So I'm willing to give this a wait and see what it's like in twenty years. I think it will have an approval rating in the 90% just a few years after it is fully implemented. The GOP is scared $hitless because they fear the fallout from the voter then.

My brother in law, a big Tea Party, Rush listener even admitted he like most of the plan but hated the spokesman and the party credited with it's conception.

Barney

whell · #27 06-29-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

That would be your homework,not mine. You're the one making the assertion, not me.

Four trillion over 10 years.

John

No, I've posted the evidence. if you want to refute, go for it.

As far as your post: DISQUALIFIED. The claim that it makes of the Bush tax cuts "hurting the middle class" has no merit or basis in fact.