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06-29-2012, 12:21 PM
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Hey don't snub Kasich!
Medicare has a conservative 25 trillion (yes with a t) unfunded liability. Quick, expand it.
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06-29-2012, 12:30 PM
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Hey don't snub Kasich! 
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Oh, I thought about putting him on the list (as well as Chris Christie) but those others are a whole 'nother ball game. I should have put Paul LePage on the list though. That guy is freakin' nuts!
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06-29-2012, 12:35 PM
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Hey don't snub Kasich!  Pete
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Yeah Ohio is just a hot bed of anti-Medicare sentiment and hates government hand-outs. I know better. It is (or was sadly) all UAW, United Steel and Uncle Sam, no matter what the guys drinking Pabst say....
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06-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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That's NE Ohio plus Toledo & a bit of Appalachia (who's getting quite wealthy from fracking btw). The rest of Ohio is as red as a red throated red headed red peckered red woodpecker in a red woods  At least in local/state elections.
Heck Traficant's been hanging out at Tea Parties, and coal miner Appalachians are super pissed at Obama. They see him as anti-coal.
John, Kasich keeps it up, he'll be Pres someday. The most vocal Pres we've ever had - he talks A LOT
Pete
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06-29-2012, 01:23 PM
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Before everyone starts calling Obama a liar, like they did on the right wing talk shows, Just remember that the Solicitor General argued the tax angle before the SC. For being such a bumbling idiot the SG sure got a couple of big wins for Obama this week.
One has to wonder why Roberts sided with the majority in this case. Kennedy was the suspected swing vote one way or the other.
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From Robert's perspective it was the only option to maintain the reputation of the court. The decision did several things, but primarily insulated the Robert's Court from the assertion of being partisan. The decision was completely in character for John Roberts and I applaud him for sticking to his legal philosophy. There is a lot of nice subtle stuff in the decision and I find it an interesting read. I'm waiting for D-ray's perspective wrt the seminar he's attending.
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06-29-2012, 01:38 PM
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They're reviewed before the fact (i.e., during confirmation). I didn't say I'm totally enamored of the Judiciary in which there are certainly some pompous blowhards (e.g., Scalia) and some incompetents (e.g., Thomas), but I still hold them in much higher regard than Congress.
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As one of my commentators wrote yesterday: " The most wasted protest is one in front of the Supreme Court building." I'm with William Howard Taft on the relative positions of desirable top jobs in Washington.
I can't see the close friends, Scalia and Ginsburg, havng a partisan dabate over dinner despite their diverging legal philosphies. That IMO says a lot about the nature of the SC: decorum. style, deliberation, punctuality, and a long term view yet steeped in tradition.
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06-29-2012, 03:22 PM
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That's NE Ohio plus Toledo & a bit of Appalachia (who's getting quite wealthy from fracking btw).Pete
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Like I said Ohio....
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06-29-2012, 03:24 PM
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From Robert's perspective it was the only option to maintain the reputation of the court. The decision did several things, but primarily insulated the Robert's Court from the assertion of being partisan. The decision was completely in character for John Roberts and I applaud him for sticking to his legal philosophy. There is a lot of nice subtle stuff in the decision and I find it an interesting read. I'm waiting for D-ray's perspective wrt the seminar he's attending.
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You do not like the Tea Party either...perhaps there is some hope for you...
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07-01-2012, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
That's NE Ohio plus Toledo & a bit of Appalachia (who's getting quite wealthy from fracking btw). The rest of Ohio is as red as a red throated red headed red peckered red woodpecker in a red woods  At least in local/state elections.
Heck Traficant's been hanging out at Tea Parties, and coal miner Appalachians are super pissed at Obama. They see him as anti-coal.
John, Kasich keeps it up, he'll be Pres someday. The most vocal Pres we've ever had - he talks A LOT
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Maybe when they open a tap and methane comes out they won't be so thrilled with fracking (Haliburton loophole).
As for the coal miners some of us are more than pissed with their open pit mines destroying the beauty of the countryside and polluting streams.
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07-02-2012, 09:45 AM
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Perhaps Rob. I don't know and I do worry a bit about it.
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Like I said Ohio.... 
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LMAO!!
Pete
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