Romney or Super Grover

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Whell, that chart is of tax RATES. That's far different from the actual taxes paid, what with all our exemptions and loopholes.

In terms of taxes paid, we're the lowest among first world industrialized nations. (Also, parenthetically, the only one without a single payer national health care system.) I can't help but thinking that you know this but assume we "clueless liberals" don't.

John

OK, I'll stipulate that for the moment. However, if you're going make comparisons of taxes paid in the US vs other countries, you've got to factor in GDP, and you also have to factor in the labor required to produce the tax revenue. This gets you to a more meaningful comparison, which is per capita tax revenue. I'm going to try to find some data on this, but I suspect the US shakes out much closer to the middle of the pack.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

You've got me all figured out, dontcha Dave?

I don't know if he does but I do.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

OK, I'll stipulate that for the moment. However, if you're going make comparisons of taxes paid in the US vs other countries, you've got to factor in GDP, and you also have to factor in the labor required to produce the tax revenue. This gets you to a more meaningful comparison, which is per capita tax revenue. I'm going to try to find some data on this, but I suspect the US shakes out much closer to the middle of the pack.

Okay, do it then.

John

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Oh, and the red type was pretty obnoxious.

John

Boy... you sure told him!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by JJIII

Boy... you sure told him!

Yeah, I'm a pretty tough customer, huh?

John

[bobabode]

Really doesn't matter what color whell paints with as it's mostly squirmy black dog opinion, any how. Harsh? Meh- just my opinion for what it's worth.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Meh- just my opinion for what it's worth.

About zero...and falling.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Okay, do it then.

John

Well, comparisons that are easily posted in a forum like this are not easy to find, but here's one. It is about what I thought it would be as well. Tax income per capita, at least based on 2003 numbers on which this chart is based, show US tax revenue per capita to be right in line with Canada and the UK, and very close to other countries that some of you think we should be emulating, like Germany.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfa...Population.pdf

Since there have not been any drastic economic upheavals that have impacted only the US, or any other country exclusively, I'd suspect that these numbers haven't changed all that much.

The point? You can say we need to be taxed more, and that's fine. But don't tell me that the US is somehow far out of whack with your social-ist utopias in Europe and Canada.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Well, comparisons that are easily posted in a forum like this are not easy to find, but here's one. It is about what I thought it would be as well. Tax income per capita, at least based on 2003 numbers on which this chart is based, show US tax revenue per capita to be right in line with Canada and the UK, and very close to other countries that some of you think we should be emulating, like Germany.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfa...Population.pdf

Since there have not been any drastic economic upheavals that have impacted only the US, or any other country exclusively, I'd suspect that these numbers haven't changed all that much.

The point? You can say we need to be taxed more, and that's fine. But don't tell me that the US is somehow far out of whack with your social-ist utopias in Europe and Canada.

Here's your answer.


And to think we're protected by two oceans.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

And to think we're protected by two oceans.

No, not anymore, Pat. Didn't Bush teach us that "Oceans no longer protect us"?

John