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06-21-2012, 06:25 PM
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According to exit interviews many people felt recall should be reserved for things more serious than merely being an asshole.
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Yes, like breaking laws which the asshole may have done.
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06-21-2012, 06:48 PM
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Yes, like breaking laws which the asshole may have done.
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So, when it becomes "has done" vs "may have done" then start the recall.
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06-21-2012, 07:08 PM
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So, when it becomes "has done" vs "may have done" then start the recall.
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I agree, the movement to recall walker was powerful, but stupid. I believe there has only been three recall elections of a Governor; in the history of this country.
"North Dakota kicked out Gov. Lynn Frazier in 1921, and California got rid of Gov. Gray Davis in 2003, according to the Center on the American Governor at Rutgers University's Eagleton Institute of Politics." (Source CNN) Walker was the third and it failed. I am not surprised.
The Senators are a different story. People view them differently. Don't know why. I am very surprised it succeeded. People were pissed, but not willing to recall Walker. That is what elections are for.
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06-22-2012, 12:07 AM
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The lesson the GOPers should take away from it is that this was not a referendum on dismantling labor. It apears to me as a great big stinkin' fart in church. Both sides wasted a lot of coin in their endeavors for naught. The Dems may have delayed him till Nov. only but delayed he is. I think Wisconsans may have dimmer view of the people in their Legislature this Nov. Is there any chance of holding onto their majority?
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06-22-2012, 07:03 AM
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Some good news Johnson & Johnson has dropped ALEC, now we need to get AT&T to wise up.
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06-22-2012, 11:54 AM
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The lesson the GOPers should take away from it is that this was not a referendum on dismantling labor.
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I do indeed believe that, for the most part, it was a referendum on dismantling public sector unions. In that union participation by the public sector is 4X higher than the private sector, it became an existential threat to the Dems. However, I'm not sure it's a winning hand for them to be in the back pocket of public sector unions.
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06-22-2012, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
The lesson the GOPers should take away from it is that this was not a referendum on dismantling labor. It apears to me as a great big stinkin' fart in church. Both sides wasted a lot of coin in their endeavors for naught. The Dems may have delayed him till Nov. only but delayed he is. I think Wisconsans may have dimmer view of the people in their Legislature this Nov. Is there any chance of holding onto their majority?
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I do indeed believe that, for the most part, it was a referendum on dismantling public sector unions. In that union participation by the public sector is 4X higher than the private sector, it became an existential threat to the Dems. However, I'm not sure it's a winning hand for them to be in the back pocket of public sector unions.
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Walker won, but squeaked by. Barely a referendum and hardly a mandate of any sort. I believe this is what Bob is pointing out. Politicians are quick to point out victory and claim a mandate, when they should really bear in mind that they nearly lost and should proceed with caution.
See what I'm sayin'?
Dave
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06-22-2012, 12:01 PM
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Some good news Johnson & Johnson has dropped ALEC, now we need to get AT&T to wise up.
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That is good news.
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06-22-2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Walker won, but squeaked by. Barely a referendum and hardly a mandate of any sort. I believe this is what Bob is pointing out. Politicians are quick to point out victory and claim a mandate, when they should really bear in mind that they nearly lost and should proceed with caution.
See what I'm sayin'?
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Exactly my point.
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06-22-2012, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I do indeed believe that, for the most part, it was a referendum on dismantling public sector unions. In that union participation by the public sector is 4X higher than the private sector, it became an existential threat to the Dems. However, I'm not sure it's a winning hand for them to be in the back pocket of public sector unions.
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Not so sure it is "in the back pocket" as what public servant in his/her right mind would vote for the union buster repubs? Might just as well stand in front of a speeding train.
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