Trump rebukes Repubs over bid to gut Ethics Office.

[Dondilion]

A sign of things to come: Trump rebukes Repubs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/03/us...fice.html?_r=0

[whell]

I think what Trump might be missing is that with the Dems losing control in Congress and the White House, they'll be throwing all the BS they can find at the wall to see if they can make any of it stick. Their best buds in the mainstream press would gleefully report on all of it - flooding the zone with BS - and trying to knock the Repubs off their game. Giving the Dems one less hunk of BS to sling - by modifying the ethics process - is probably a good thing in the long run.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by whell

I think what Trump might be missing is that with the Dems losing control in Congress and the White House, they'll be throwing all the BS they can find at the wall to see if they can make any of it stick. Their best buds in the mainstream press would gleefully report on all of it - flooding the zone with BS - and trying to knock the Repubs off their game. Giving the Dems one less hunk of BS to sling - by modifying the ethics process - is probably a good thing in the long run.

A good thing for the country?

It is time to stop viewing issues strictly through party optics.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

A good thing for the country?

It is time to stop viewing issues strictly through party optics.

That is not likely to happen.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

That is not likely to happen.

And that's exactly the reason that the GOP wanted to have absolute control over future ethics investigations - to bury those directed at the GOP while emphasizing those directed at Democrats. Any dumb fool should be able to recognize that.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by finnbow

And that's exactly the reason that the GOP wanted to have absolute control over future ethics investigations - to bury those directed at the GOP while emphasizing those directed at Democrats. Any dumb fool should be able to recognize that.

You lock Hillary up for her bullshit and I will take you seriously about your ethics concerns.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

A good thing for the country?

It is time to stop viewing issues strictly through party optics.

Its really not about viewing issues strictly through party optics. Its about dealing with political reality. The Dems have already signaled their intent to use every and any means they can to try to derail Trump. I think they've already started.

The political reality is this: if I think my opponent is going to hit me over the head with a hammer for any reason they see fit, I'm not going to go out of my way to leave any hammers lying about.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Its really not about viewing issues strictly through party optics. Its about dealing with political reality. The Dems have already signaled their intent to use every and any means they can to try to derail Trump. I think they've already started.

The political reality is this: if I think my opponent is going to hit me over the head with a hammer for any reason they see fit, I'm not going to go out of my way to leave any hammers lying about.

Actually, they've said they'll work with Trump on areas where there's common ground, unlike what McConnell said and did after Obama was elected.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by whell

Its really not about viewing issues strictly through party optics. Its about dealing with political reality. The Dems have already signaled their intent to use every and any means they can to try to derail Trump. I think they've already started.

The political reality is this: if I think my opponent is going to hit me over the head with a hammer for any reason they see fit, I'm not going to go out of my way to leave any hammers lying about.

This hammer is about Ethics and it is bi-partisan.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

This hammer is about Ethics and it is bi-partisan.

What evidence is there that a highly politicized body like the US Congress, awash with more lobbyist money that anyone could count in a lifetime, and with a Dem party that was roundly embarrassed by evidence of corruption at the highest levels last year, and who nominated as its standard bearer Hillary Clinton who has more baggage than O'Hare Airport, is remotely interested in ethics?

Ethics enforcement in Washington DC is nothing more than a political tool to damage political opponents. Ethics complaints by members of congress are a stone throwing contest in the glass house district.