Establishment Dems Have Finally Stopped Pretending They’re Different From The Neocons

[Tom Joad]

This author is one of the few people on the left that understands the scam that the two party duopoly is running.



http://www.newslogue.com/debate/254

So neolib pundits and politicians all agree: that thing they’ve been doing where they pretend to be two separate groups with two different ideologies? They’re not doing that anymore. The political battle lines are getting largely redrawn for the incoming administration, with the so-called “centrists” (read: bloodthirsty corporatist warmongering extremists) in the Democratic and Republican parties on one side of the divide, and the wall-building Trumpsters on the other.

Which makes everything a whole lot simpler, I guess. While it’s depressing to see how unrepresented progressive values are on Capitol Hill, at least the disease has isolated itself. Democrats are no longer pretending to be a progressive party, which could free up a lot of confusion and highlight the gaping hole on the political left that neither party is interested in filling anymore. The sooner we can get people unplugged from the state propaganda being rammed down their throats by the mainstream media, the sooner we can get Americans to stop propping up the oligarchy with establishment support and start filling that hole with a new progressive party.

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[Tom Joad]

I particularly like this part:

Here I am defending Trump again. It pisses me off that Democrats are so off-their-meds crazy that Trump keeps looking like the sane one by comparison, but look who’s opposing him! Look at their “The Resistance” movement, which is trying to imitate the spirit of Bernie’s movement but which was put together by the same people who sabotaged his campaign. People keep bugging me on Twitter with #TheResistance hashtags telling me we should all be linking arms to stand together against Trump, and it gives me the creeps. I like my rebellion oligarchy-free, thanks. It’s like Marie Antoinette sidling up to you at the protest line saying “Yeah, we sure hate those damn aristocrats, huh? Hey, anyone want cake?”

[finnbow]

Make Russia Great Again

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Make Russia Great Again

Indeed.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Make Russia Great Again

Originally Posted by bobabode

Indeed.

Why the Hell not?

I have no desire to revisit the cold war.

The Russian people are not my enemies.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Why the Hell not?

I have no desire to revisit the cold war.

The Russian people are not my enemies.

No shit, Sherlock. Who said anything about the Russian people? The Iranian and North Korean aren't our enemies either, nor are the people or Mosul. It's the guys with guns and bombs following their leaders' orders who are the enemies, tovarich.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

No shit, Sherlock. Who said anything about the Russian people? The Iranian and North Korean aren't our enemies either, nor are the people or Mosul. It's the guys with guns and bombs following their leaders' orders who are the enemies, tovarich.

Here's the deal with me Finn.

If Trump gets us out of the business of trying to be the World's Police, I don't give a rats ass what else he does or doesn't do, he will be, IMO, the best President this country had had in my adult life.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Who said anything about the Russian people? The Iranian and North Korean aren't our enemies either, nor are the people or Mosul. It's the guys with guns and bombs following their leaders' orders who are the enemies, tovarich.

That's just empty rhetoric.

Our propaganda machine will be conditioning us to demonize them all.

I am old enough to remember how it was during the Cold War.

[Dondilion]

Trump is trying to tell them that the Russians are weak and are not the ones confronting us economically but he is being noised out by the Soros clique which was kicked out Russia, old cold war warriors like McCain and an intelligence matrix which has as its aim the balkanization of Russia.

[merrylander]

Finn is right Tom, I have traveled enough to have seen this same attitude by people. Florence and I were welcomed with open arms but just don't talk politics with these folks.