[Zeke]

And most high schools offer driver's education but wrecks still occur.

It annoys me when folks equate guns with Patriotism or use it as a metallic phallus -- I find both groups to be radical wingnuts -- but a properly trained and rational human with a gun doesn't offend me.

The intellectually actionable queries are what is a "gun," what "training" mandates, and whether John Q. is "rational."

2A types are going to claim that the latter doesn't/shouldn't apply but it already does in the form of convicted felons. Their argument SHOULD be that the average citizen is far superior then most convicted felons...

Personally, I don't think so...