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Old 06-05-2023, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by whell View Post
And by the way, when Obama let Putin waltz into Crimea in 2014, it was folks like me who suggested that Obama's response to Putin was painfully slow and didn't amount to much. Unlike you, this isn't about pure politics then, and it's not about pure politics now. It wasn't for Putin, who gambled that Obama would be a spectator, and unfortunately, he was right.

If anything, Biden's response was likely based in part on what the Obama administration learned AFTER the Russians invaded Crimea. Celeste Wallender, one of Biden's Pentagon picks, said this in 2022:

“I believe that our response in 2014 was too slow and too incremental. And it’s confirmed by the lessons that I learned, and that I believe others in the national security community learned, to better address Russia’s ongoing aggression,” said Wallander, who would oversee U.S. military security cooperation and foreign military sales.

She was absolutely spot on.
Meanwhile, your Dear Leader called Putin "savvy" and a "genius" for attacking Ukraine while Tucker Carlson, the most popular person on Fox News, said “Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I’m serious. Why do I care? Why shouldn’t I root for Russia? Which I am.”

Obama (and the rest of the world) may have been slow in his response to Russia in 2014 (not that it's clear what could have done by Ukraine's military at the time), but he didn't actively cheer them on like Trump and MAGAWorld did. As a MAGAt, you have no standing whatsoever to criticize anyone else's response to Putin and Russia.
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