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Originally Posted by Reason10
I haven't called you any names or vilified you in any way. But I agree with you that it happens too much on this listserv, and it is largely directed at the few Trump supporters who participate here. It never furthers the conversation.
One would have to go back to the KKK days of Reconstruction to see the amount of hate I see from the WokeNazis here, against the taxpayers, (better known as Trump supporters)
Do you have any data to corroborate your assertion that 80% of Americans are mainstream conservative? And also, please define mainstream conservative.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ust-24-liberal
Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Definitions of mainstream conservatism?
Free market capitalism.
The rule of law.
Adherence to the Constitution, (INCLUDING the amendments that deal with discrimination on the basis of the protected classes in the 14th Amendment).
Streamlined government.
Low, affordable tax rates.
Secure borders, (see "rule of law.")
Protection of the family unit.
Freedom and liberty, balanced by personal responsibility.
A reliable and trustworthy electoral system.
Is there any politician alive today who is a perfect combination of all these traits? I maintain that no human being is perfect, and that we are all flawed. Nobody expects perfection.
Private Sector Donald Trump was an imperfect man, and Democrats LOVED him, (mostly because he bought off Democrat candidates with campaign checks just to leave him alone.) Ironically, he became the PERFECT President, as far as job performance goes, and somehow that earned the sheer hatred of the Woke left, as well as some conservatives.
(Yes, Virginia, there are conservatives who are sorely pissed that this Trump guy was able to implement in three short years the type of conservatism they had been promising for the past thirty years.)
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On name calling; you do it plenty. Maybe walk the talk a bit better?
On 80% of the country being mainstream conservatives: the Gallup poll referenced in the article states that 37% Americans self-identify as conservatives; how do you get 80% from that? Also, it's worth noting that there are no definitions of conservative in the poll, so whether they conform to your definition cannot be stated.
I like your list of conservative values, though it's pretty simplistic. But I'm not criticizing because, to be fair, I asked a large, open-ended question.
I can say with certainty that many non-conservatives would agree with some of these, and possibly with most, depending on the details. For example, adherence to the rule of law, adherence to the Constitution (basically the same things), a trustworthy election system, freedom balanced with personal responsibility, streamline government, secure borders. I like free market capitalism so long as its excesses are checked. Unfettered capitalism leads to disaster, every time. I have no idea what you mean by protection of the family unit.